How do intersections get their Name?

[Jester119]

How do intersections get their Name? Just wondering if anyone knows because after you have been in flying for a while u come across some funny names.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

Like Crazy woman (VOR) (Utah, I think..)

 

[Frank Bama]

A majority of the intersections get their names from towns or landmarks that they are over. There are also a lot named after famous people that are from the area. A lot of the intersections on arrivals are of peoples names, go into Nashville, and your bound to see about every famous country singer out there. A lot of sports teams are out there as well. Fly Safe.

 

[Daveman]

Drunk in the Boston area, oh yea almost forgot BOSOX.
I know this isn't an answer but most names pertain to the region.

 

[LearAv8r]

HITTR = FL intersection over Ted Williams' house

YOCKY = Your Over Central KentuckY

kind of kooool............
lear-

 

[mobie]

Waypoints, Intersections

All waypoints and intersections are 5 letters only.

One word with 5 letters are used.

More than 5.

Eliminate double letters.

KIMMEL becomes KIMEL
Cotton becomes COTON

Keep the first letter, first vowel and last letter. Drop other vowels starting from right to left.

ADOLPH becomes ADLPH
BAILEY becomes BAILY
BURWELL becomes BURWL

Drop consonants, starting from right to left.

BRIDGEPORT becomes BRIDT

Thats just a start, but will win you a beer on your next lay over. I am saving the rest so I stay in free beer.

Mobie

 

[Daveman]

Hey Mobie, I got 8 Becks in the fridge I'm willin' to shre w/ you for that info.

 

[mobie]

Another Good One

Daveman,
Will buy you a beer if you can get 2 more questions, both are in Jeppesen.

ZIGDEX on all Low Altitude charts.

VIBAL used in the EU.

Mobie

 

[Lead Sled]

Other interesting names for intersections are Pickn and Grnin on the Hehaw 3 arrival into Nashville. There's a lot of really humorus ones out there, it evident that the FAA and ATC people have a pretty good sense of humor. A few years ago, when the FAA commissioned a couple of RNAV approaches at the airport where I was based, I was invited to submit a list of potiental intersection and fix names for the approaches. They had to be 5 letters and they wanted the names to reflect things identifyable with local points of interest. This isn't always done, for example going into Newton, Iowa there is a Matag intersection on the ILS Runway 32 approach. Newton is where Maytag appliances are built. Sure sounds like a "paid" advertisement to me.

'Sled

 

[pilotyip]

Picked by the designers

When the FAA builds new procedures they let the group designing the procedure pick the names. Like all of the departure points around Detroit after named after sports. intersections like TYCOB, PISTN, LAYNE (Bobby Layne Detroit Lion), SCORE, CAVVS, RUZZL (Casey Russell U of M B'ball player), HARWL (Ernie Harwell, Detroit Tiger announcer) DUNKS, WINGS, EARVN (Magic Johnson famous MSU player)

 

[SCT]

I always wondered if there is politics involved in naming intersections? Here in Charlotte, there is a fix (on an ILS) that is named after one of the prominent companies in town. Does the local FAA and goverment have a say in the names?

SCT

By the way, how did East Texas end up on the East Coast.....

 

[Flyingdutchman]

We use the longer
abbreviations as a way to make them more
meaningful rather than trying to remember the
names for MT, MI, MA, MS, MN, etc.
Under the entry for Great Falls, take a look at that chart, note that the words
Great Falls, App(R)/Dep(R), Twr, and Gnd are in
bold. When the words and letters are in bold type,
this indicates the names to be used in voice
communications. For example, a call to approach
control would be “Great Falls Approach,” not
“Great Falls International Approach” because the
word Int’l is not in bold. At Hailey, Idaho, it is easy
to see that a call to the tower would be “Hailey
shown on the face of the chart near the location of
their antennae. This can be just above the navaid
frequency box, above the airports where the
remote sites might be located, or at remote sites
indicated by a small dot enclosed by a small circle.
Since the first two digits of all Flight Service Station
frequencies are “12” these two numbers do not
appear with the FSS frequencies. One of the
original FSS frequencies, 122.1 MHz, has almost
disappeared. In the first comm receivers, there
was a limited number of VHF transmit frequencies
and 122.1 was one of them. Most Flight Service
Stations were able to receive on that frequency
and transmit back on the VOR. Today, however,
For discussion purposes, a section of the new
“Comm Tabs” from US(LO) 7/8 is illustrated. The
first entry for Great Falls, Mont shows “p8B” to the
right of the city name. These characters indicate
that the Great Falls airport can be found on panel
8 of the chart in quadrant B. Each panel is labeled
at the top of the “Zigdex.” Each panel is included
on the chart between the “outside” folds. These
are the folds that are naturally on the left and right
when you open to only one section of the chart.
When the chart is opened this way, there are four
sections labeled A, B, C, and D. This indexing
system on the Comm Tabs negates the need for
the “City Location Guide” which will disappear.

Isn't VIBAL a intersection in France?

Now, bring me my beer to Colorado please! see ya !

 

[mobie]

Vibal

VIBAL: Is the method wherby a humam observer (or pilot in take-off conditions, under conditions specified) determines the RVR by counting specific markers adjacent to the runway or by counting runway lights.

Mobie

 

[Flyingdutchman]

ok fine... now, bring me my 1/2 beer

 

[Flyingdutchman]

oops! wrong topic.. delete!

 

[Daveman]

VIBAL: Is the method wherby a humam observer (or pilot in take-off conditions, under conditions specified) determines the RVR by counting specific markers adjacent to the runway or by counting runway lights.

Mobie

ok they got VIBAL but ZIGDEX is still up for grabs... and Mobie, 8 Becks is now 3,
I had to chase the dog around the block. But hey beers on me all included.
But if PilotYip comes he has to invite Hugh YORGAN.

 

[NJA Capt]

How about:

HAMMM, BURGR, FRYYS

or

ITAWT, ITAWA, PUDYE, TTATT......IDEED
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0410/00678R16.PDF

 

[IFlyGC]

I think someone said ZIGDEX already, but if they haven't, it's the filing system jepp uses at the top of all it's charts. The top of the page is staggered "Zig-Zag" style to aid in finding the right bit.

Probably one of the more GA friendly fixes is BAXTR down in Texas. It was named after one of the more popular writers for flying magazine, Gordon Baxter.

 

[crudeoilpilot]

Dutchman,

Gotta love those little KLM cuties in the avatar.
Why are the gps approaches loaded with such wacked out position names? What gives?

 

[Joseph II]

The National Flight Data Center (NFDC) are the people who assign the waypoint names in the US.

When I used to work with those guys, they said typically if a new RNAV was being built they would ask the folks who designed the procedure in OKC if they had any special names they wanted to use... If they did not have any ideas, they told me it was usually up to them to decide the names. The last time I spoke to the analyst at the NFDC he told me that a new NDB name/ident was his friend's wife's initials.

He did ask if I wanted my own intersection, but I forgot to get back to him... I guess I should have now that I think of it...

 

[Lead Sled]

Why are the gps approaches loaded with such wacked out position names? What gives?

With all of the new approaches coming on line, and so many new ones in the works, they didn't have time to come up with more traditional names - besides, many of them were already taken. There is also the issue of international standardization.

'Sled