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bri5150

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I just received a postcard in the mail from Horizon stating they have received my resume and it is under review. I was just wondering if that was the kiss of death or if everyone who puts in a resume gets a postcard in the mail. If it is a normal procedure, how long was it until they contact you for an interview?

Brian
-eagerly awaiting interview dates- :)
 
I sent in my resume, never got a card. Got a call about six months later for an interview and got the job.
 
I sent my resume in about 18 months ago and got a postcard and no call. I sent it in again in September of this year and got a call and no postcard. I'm not sure if anyone out there is getting both.
Good Luck!
 
I got the post card too last week and no call yet. So I guess we'll see what happens in the new year!
 
Horizon Post Card

I collected about 7 post cards. 3 weeks after updating my resume I got one more and few day later got a call from HR for interview. Had to politely turn it down as I was in the ground school with a different outfit.
Hang in there. I'm sure it's not a 'Kiss of Death'.
Good Luck!
Bunny
 
Hi!

I got the postcard.

In 1991.

I'm still waiting.

Cliff
YIP
 
To all of you who still want to work here, read, weep and discover what type of "management" team you get to deal with once you descend into this freak show they call Horizon that so much loves to preach about the "shared" values of integrity, heart, partnership, innovation, and continious improvement.


From the union website (reading about how disconnected from reality they really are just pissed me off today)

October 20, 2005

Mr. Haugaard,

Per your request is the narrative of events that occurred at the Medford station on September 30, 2005. I follow with some relevant questions for your office.

Landing in Medford, we arrived on schedule and proceeded to turn the aircraft for our outbound leg of flight 2425 to Eugene and then on to Seattle. It was a very nice fall day with sunshine and light winds. A great day to fly at Horizon.

I did a walk around of the aircraft and then proceeded into the station area on my way to use the restroom. As I walked by the station manager’s office, I observed one of our flight attendants, who lives in Medford, engaged in conversation with the Medford station manager. The flight attendant introduced me to the station manager and we exchanged a few short pleasantries as this was our first interaction.

I then proceeded through the counter area and into the air terminal to use the restroom. Some times things take a little more time than others and this was one of those times. Eventually I was all squared away though, and upon leaving the rest room noticed that nobody was at the Horizon ticket counter to allow my return access to the aircraft. Accordingly, I stepped in line at security with the intent of proceeding through the gate area to go to the aircraft. It was now 12 minutes prior to departure and with about 5 minutes of checklist and weight and balance procedures ahead of us; we were still in great shape for an on time departure.

As I stepped up into the security line I was number 2 no pun, behind a gentleman having his documents and identification check by a gruff old screener. The screener looked up at me and asked what I was doing? I responded that I was going out to fly the Horizon flight. He asked me why I didn’t go through the ticket counter. I pointed out that there was nobody there. He asked if I rang the bell and knocked on the door. I responded that I was not familiar with this station and that I felt that this would be the quickest way to the aircraft. He responded with “just a minute.”

As I waited to be let through, I observed that now standing behind me was a young Alaska native lady who was sobbing uncontrollably. I asked her what the matter was.
She, between sobs, responded that her cat was not going to be going with her because she didn’t have the required papers for the cat. She indicated that her boyfriend had went back home to pick up the papers but he had not yet returned and that airline people had said the cat could not fly without them.

I asked the lady where she was going. She indicated Alaska via Seattle. I asked if she was flying on Horizon. She said she was. I then told her that I was flying the Horizon airplane to Seattle and that everything was going to be alright. About this time another young man stepped up into the security line out of breath. He said that he thought he was going to miss his flight. I asked him where he was going. He said Seattle. I asked Horizon? He said yes. I said no problem; we are going to Seattle too, as I motioned to the crying lady and myself.

At about this time, the security fellow motioned me through and a Horizon ticket agent stepped up and informed the lady from Alaska that they would forgo the paper work requirement and that her cat would be getting aboard the flight.

I proceeded through the security screening and stepped into our boarding area to just see a boarding agent walking onto the tarmac and closing the door behind her. I stepped up to the door but could not get her attention through the window as she proceeded away from me toward the aircraft.

I went back to the security area and waited for the young lady who, just to make matters worse, had been selected for the full security screening. She was still very upset and appeared confused by the screening process. I once again gave her assurances that everything would be alright. The other gentlemen going to Seattle cleared security without a hitch and we all proceed back to the door overlooking the ramp. Because the angle of the widows relative to where the aircraft was parked is very fine, I did not believe that anyone near the aircraft could see me waving, but each time I saw someone I tried to get their attention but with no results. The gentlemen asked what was going to happen. I said that eventually they would come up missing something and come looking for me. I could see that some of the agents appeared a bit confused as we moved closer to departure time, and at 2 minutes prior to our scheduled departure, the door was opened from the ramp side by a ramp supervisor. This was a different person than the lady who had said the cat could get on board or the boarding agent who had closed the door.

The supervisor said, “Come on lets go” and motioned just to me. I said “we are all going to Seattle” and motioned to the two passengers standing next to me. She said that they, the passengers, were too late and that the flight was already closed. She said that they could not go. I once again stated that we were all going to Seattle. I did not want to get into any argument in front of the passengers and I knew that it would take me, on average, 5 minutes to complete my pre departure duties… so that putting these two folks on board would have no bearing to overall situation.

The supervisor then said, “John, do I have to call the Duty Officer?” I was now getting a bit frustrated with the situation and I said that she could call the duty officer, the chief pilot or the president. Whereupon she closed the door and walked away leaving myself and the two passengers once again locked behind the door in the boarding area…

While standing there I remember looking up at a Horizon poster that says… Are you running late? Are you missing your bags? Also listing 20 things that can go wrong in our crazy business, with a big picture of a smiling gate agent, and a big punch line…
At Horizon we are here to help. The gentleman asks me what is going to happen. I said I’m not absolutely sure, but I think we are going to Seattle. The lady has now stopped sobbing.

At about 5 minutes after our scheduled departure time, I see someone go aboard the aircraft and my First Officer walk briskly back into the operations area. He indicated to me later that they told him what was going on and asked him if Captain K was waiting for someone? He indicated to them that as far as he knew, I just went in to use the restroom. They then asked him what they should do. He said that he told them that they could do what they were currently doing, or they could put us on the airplane and we would depart.

Apparently at 12 minutes after departure time they took the First Officers second recommendation. The boarding agent then opened the door up and said we could all go to the airplane. Immediately upon arriving in cockpit and fastening my seatbelt and I asked the A Flight Attendant if she would be so kind as to “give the lady some extra love on the way to Seattle” and went on with our normal duties. We taxied out at 15 past the hour and when asked by my First Officer what we should call the delay, I said crew delay because none of this would have happened if I didn’t use the restroom. He called it in as a crew delay.

The next week I stopped by the Medford station manager’s office and said to her that I had just met her the week before, and that I had apparently had a communication problem with her people. I asked if she would like to hear my side of the story. She said yes, so I proceeded to share the events from my perspective. When I was finished she looked at me in a very intense manner and said this… ’The only thing I what to know Captain K is did you have any alterior motives?” Somewhat angry by the question I responded by saying that I hired into this outfit and worked for a man by the name of Milt Knolt, who said that we all did the work and that it wasn’t about my job or your job. In addition I added that I had also worked for a guy by the name of John Kelly who taught us about empowerment.

Mr. Haugaard, since the station manager in Medford has now determined that given the above circumstances I should be subjected to this investigation by your office, I think that it is very appropriate to ask the following questions.

1. Is the Medford station manager running a customer service organization as outlined by our Mission Statement.
2. Since the station manager received the oral version of this briefing, just one week after the events took place, did the station manager include my perspectives in her original report or in an addendum, or did she omit my perspectives.
3. Given her omission of this relevant material, just what exactly are her alterior motives in this matter?
4. Can I expect a formal apology from the station manager for her omission or agenda?
5. Will I be receiving a formal kudos in the Leading Edge and our company website for my heart and integrity in customer service?

 
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continued....

[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif]Friday Sept 30, 2005

I help the Lady and Her Cat.

Friday October 7th (one week later)

I walk into the Medford Station Manager’s office and discuss the events of the 30th.
She asks me if I have any ulterior motives.

Friday October 7th (later in the evening)

Captain Larry tells me that Mr. Hahn informed him and Bill Rainey that I was being investigated regarding a serious matter, although not “the big one.” Mr. Hahn would not indicate to them just exactly what the problem was, and when Captain Larry asked Mr. Hahn if I had been contacted during the course of the investigation, Mr. Hahn indicated that I would be at some point in time in the “investigation.” I share with Larry my story of the Lady and Her Cat, whereupon Larry says I screwed up. Larry indicates that first I showed compassion and then I followed it up with integrity. Larry says we can not do this a Horizon.

Wednesday October 12th

My First Officer during the Medford Cat incident receives a call from Spike “the Hammer” Mckinsey asking about the Medford incident. In addition he asks about another incident involving my apparent use of colorful language with a Medford ground agent regarding what the airplane might smell like if we didn’t receive lav service when it was required.

Wednesday October 12th (later in the day)

I open a voice mail from Haugaard, which basically contains the following elements;
Hi John, hey this is LaMar.
Hey, I was wondering if you could stop by before your next trip for a chat about what happened in Medford the other day…I think you know what I am talking about.
There is no discipline… at this time, just a chat.
There will be a lady here from personnel…just to scratch down some notes.
You are sure welcome to bring someone from the Union…that would be swell.
Thanks John,

Wednesday October 12th (yet later in the day)

I immediately begin coordinating Union representation for a future meeting. (Definitely the right thing to do.)
Nevertheless, I am deeply concerned with the message and share it with many of my fellow pilots. Many are as disgusted as I am, when I tell them my story about the Lady and Her Cat and they then listen to Haugaard’s message. I share my opinion that an outstanding Pilot group like ours deserves a first class Chief Pilot.

Tuesday October 18th

I receive a phone call from Haugaard as I am waiting for a flight home. He says that none of this is really any big deal and he asks me, if given the lady from personnel was not at the meeting, would I be willing to stop by and tell him what happened in Medford? I state that I would be willing to tell him the story over the phone if he would like, as I have a few minutes. He says “Really”
I explain to him my belief that a Chief Pilot should be able to call a Line Captain and ask him what happened in Medford the other day. He agrees.
( Oops …there I go with that integrity thing again)

I tell him that it will be just a moment, as I am near some passengers and I will need to step away to find a more private area. When I return to the phone conversation his audio quality is now very different as it sounds to me that he is on a speaker phone. He makes no indication that anyone else is in the room with him. While I am a bit skeptical, I do not ask him about the speaker phone as I feel very strongly about my advocacy for my passengers and that I have done the right thing. All Pilots I have shared the story with also agree…(except for Larry with that compassion and integrity thing.)
I now share the story of the Lady and Her Cat with Haugaard. In addition to the narrative, I provide the following matter of philosophy. I state that each extension of customer service, whether it be a handshake, a smile, announcing points of interest, turning off the seatbelt sign, or going out of ones way to do something special entails a certain amount of personal risk. Risk of rejection or perhaps the risk of being wrote up because of a perceived error. Accordingly, it is imperative that we are supported at the highest level when we as employees take the risk of doing something special for our customers. Southwest Airlines knows this. He says that he basically agrees with this philosophy and asks if I would put my Medford story in writing and send it to him. I agree.
(Oh but wait…there is more.)

He then indicates that he another matter to discuss. He explains that an Arcadia Load Coordinator has indicated that perhaps I made her feel bad when we were engaged in the weight and balance verification procedures. I stated to Mr. Haugaard that it was not my intent to make her feel bad, and that while my official role was not one of station trainer, I find that I spent a lot of time working with our load coordinators to enable them to do the procedure as we all have been directed. As I recalled, this particular agent was not allowing me to say “checked” to each load compartment verification and was rushing through the procedure. I had therefore stopped the process and had explained the importance of us slowing down and following the procedure as outlined. I further explained to Mr. Haugaard, that as it was not my intent to hurt anybody’s feelings, I would be happy to apologize to the agent if it was necessary. I also stated that I was very proud of the fact that I had worked closely with many of our Load Coordinators in learning the new procedure over the last few months, and that system wide it appears that we now have a high percentage of agents who can do it correctly. Haugaard says he appreciates my efforts and we leave this topic.
(and oh, by the way...)
Haugaard then states that he has also received a report from a Medford Agent about my apparent use of colorful language in describing the effects associated with not getting a lav service. I Explain to Haugaard that I have been know to use colorful language on the flight deck, but that I would not use it in front of any passengers. Haugaard says that perhaps there is an indication that a passenger may have heard something. I ask Haugaard if he has received any passenger complaints. He says he has not. I say well then, there you are. He drops the subject. The Phone conversation is concluded.

Thursday October 20th

As requested, I send the complete narrative about the Lady and Her Cat to Haugaard.

(I then hear nothing more from Haugaard until...)

Wednesday November 23, 2005

I receive a Letter of Warning from Haugaard via certified mail.

[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif] (Received via certified mail)

November 23, 2005

Captain Kangas:

This Letter of Warning formally documents our discussions of three separate incidents occurring on 30 September. In ACV, your demeanor and tone was perceived as intimidating and demeaning by a young ramp employee during the load verification process. A short time later, two more incidents were reported during your stopover in MFR: First, you usurped the stations authority and delayed your departure by demanding that a late arriving passenger be boarded. Second, you used extremely profane and offensive language with the MFR ramp personnel during a discussion on the availability and need for lavatory servicing.

I have reviewed your written response to these reports, and carefully considered your comments during our lengthy phone conversation. And I do appreciate your cooperation in offering your perspectives on the matter and working with me on discussing the issues. Moreover, I can certainly appreciate the sincerity of your motivation to take charge of situations you felt you could resolve and thought was the right thing to do. As I understand your explanation, your actions in ACV were only intended to slow down the load verification process to ensure accuracy. You did not intend to offend. Later in MFR, you wrote and stated that you felt it was your duty to assist a distressed and delayed passenger, and also ensure that your aircraft’s lavatory was properly serviced and sanitized for your passenger’s convenience. To be sure, all are honorable intentions. Your opinion is valuable and you are welcome to raise issues to the appropriate station leader on duty, but the ultimate decision resides with that individual, not you.

Regrettably, John, while your motivations are greatly appreciated, your methods were clearly improper. The results of your actions speak for themselves. The young ramp employee in ACV was greatly offended by your perceived mocking and rudeness. I insist that you offer her an apology at your earliest convenience. In MFR, your actions to assist the passenger and delay your departure clearly defied the stations authority and responsibility to manage passenger status while the aircraft is on the ground. However well-intentioned your motivation may have been, you clearly and inappropriately usurped the stations’ authority. In this situation, you had no such authority to interfere with station passenger boarding issues. Finally, you use of crude and profane language in dealing with the lavatory issue is not what I expect from a highly experienced and professional Captain for our airline. It is simply unacceptable and will not be tolerated.

I urge you to consider my comments and suggestions carefully. I know you to operate our aircraft professionally and safely. However, I need you to understand the importance of treating your fellow employees with respect and dignity at all times. And you must let the stations manage their operations without interfering. Failure to do so will only result in even more conflict and possible serious disciplinary action. This letter will be placed in your permanent records.

Very Respectfully,

LaMar Haugaard
Chief Pilot

Oh, and I almost forgot about:
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I sent in my resume back in March of 04 and recieved 'the card' the following month, no call. I sent in another resume back in early September of this year and recieved 'the card' about 2 weeks later. Then, they called me today for an interview, the interview dates offered were 1/10 and 1/12. However, it has been almost 4 months since I sent in the last resume and I have since decided to pursue other avenues. Hope this helps anyone waiting. Not sure what, why, how, they select thier applicants.
 

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