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FlyinTim

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THIS IS NOT MEANT AS FLAMEBAIT....


I am a 20 year old CFI..etc... 1200 TT..60 Multi (starting to instruct in a twin a lot recently)...

I know I have to made a decision if I want to make any kind of money (even have the remote chance)... to go in the airlines and get my senority from the start (and be stuck in a CRJ), or go cooporate/charter and be on call all the time...

hmmm.

thoughts?...I am stuck here.. Annnndddd i know this is VERY remote..but try to stay in the MA, NH, CT, RI area too.:erm:
 
FlyinTim said:
THIS IS NOT MEANT AS FLAMEBAIT....

I know I have to made a decision if I want to make any kind of money...
thoughts?...I am stuck here.. Annnndddd i know this is VERY remote..but try to stay in the MA, NH, CT, RI area too.:erm:
The Secret Service doesn't cotton to people who make money, no matter where they live.

Make money the legal way and get paid to do it!!!

Make Money at the Mint
by the Partnership for Public Service


Have you ever wondered how you could make money and still serve your country? A job with the US Mint allows you to do both -- literally.
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So if you've always wanted a job in which you could make a lot of money, but you were concerned that your friends would accuse you of selling out, the US Mint might just be the place for you. At a minimum, it will give you the inside track on finding that elusive Mississippi quarter from the Philadelphia mint, allowing you to fill the one hole in your collection
 
hey tim do what doc says and hope for the best and pester the people at the companys that you really want to work for
you will be very lucky to get a job where you want, or you could stay where your at, untill one opens up in your area
also send your resume to all the freight dog companys they will work you hard and of course not pay much but you already know that
good luck
 
But remember

It may be true that 35K is a lot of money especially when you're making next to nothing...

But remember that Pilots bear awesome responsibility, huge liability, and possess technical superiority to do what we do.

Because of this, 35k should be the entry level salary for a starting CFI and that all pilots should be making considerably more from the CFI level all the way on up.

If you're hitting the job market, be choosey and have self respect that you deserve the best no matter where you go.

Good luck.
 
Hmmm, 20 yr old CFI with 1200TT and 60 multi.

I'm jealous. You could pretty much be where ever you want before the age 23. I'm 30, poor as social worker, and I've gotten my total time over a 4 year span and..and...and.....I need a hug.:bawling:

I did just pass a checkout for a part 141 school in my area that has a Seminole. Now if I just work there forever they might give me an MEI.
That's all I have to look forward to at this point.:eek:

Oh, sorry to be talking about me. Ummm.....I say you go tow banners.

JUST KIDDING!!!! My guess would be the Airlines at your age. You'd have so much freakin seniority by the age 30.

Hey, this was my 200th post. Yahoooo! At least I'm building some kind of number as I lose my mind!
 
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I would suggest staying on track for the airline career, if it isn't what you enjoy, you can always drop back to the corporate (not speaking of the fortune 500 companies) gig.
 
Say Again Over said:
I would suggest staying on track for the airline career, if it isn't what you enjoy, you can always drop back to the corporate (not speaking of the fortune 500 companies) gig.
My buddy is the fleet manager for the Hawker at a corporate flight department, he's got resumes from several guys with 12,000 hours over at 121.

More likely, the guy will work untill age 60 at a place like Eagle and then come over by us 135 guys to work another 5 years for to make ends meet until Soc Sec kicks in.
 
flyintim...do not get discouraged..seems like u are on the right track..shake hands with everybody..meet as many people as you can...i had a similar background...flying lears at 22 upgraded at 23.. Fedex at 25 etc..there is a lot of luck involved and obvious hard work..but i would not have gotten the lear job or the fedex job if i did not network. it is very important..keep doing what you are doing and you will be fine...good luck
 
FN FAL said:
the guy will work untill age 60 at a place like Eagle and then come over by us 135 guys to work another 5 years for to make ends meet until Soc Sec kicks in.
...nope...by the time he hits 60, there will be no Soc Sec or he won't be eligible 'til about age 80...
 
linecheck said:
It may be true that 35K is a lot of money especially when you're making next to nothing...

But remember that Pilots bear awesome responsibility, huge liability, and possess technical superiority to do what we do.

Because of this, 35k should be the entry level salary for a starting CFI and that all pilots should be making considerably more from the CFI level all the way on up.
I never made more than 25K as a CFI and now I'm only making a little more than that as SIC. Here's the problem with your statement above; supply and demand. There are far too many pilots (good pilots) for the amount of jobs. Why would someone pay a CFI 35K when there are 5,000 other CFIs who would do the job better and cheaper.
 
Flyin Tim,
Hey buddy, I know that everyone wants to give you advice about flying but hey, 20 years old and a MEI, you're doin' fine on that front. Here's my $.02--Go to college.

That's it. Go to college. Instruct part time and go have a blast. Not just because you WILL need a four year degree at some point but also because if you don't, you will miss out on some of the best times that you could possibly have. And dude...you're a pilot...in college...like shooting fish in a barrel.
 
FlyinTim said:
I know I have to made a decision if I want to make any kind of money (even have the remote chance)... to go in the airlines and get my senority from the start (and be stuck in a CRJ), or go cooporate/charter and be on call all the time...

hmmm.

My only advice would be to EDUCATE yourself before you make any kind of decision. The airline world is no sure thing by any means and many corporate gigs arent on call...in fact I had never really looked too far into corporate until the past few weeks and I have already landed a few interviews for corporate gigs that would way outweigh any kind of airline thing...ie not many overnights, good pay from day 1, no chance of furlough etc.

So look into some options and do a pros and cons list.

Good luck :)
 
Stifler's Mom said:
All you people that knew what you wanted to do at age 20 make me sick. :puke:

cheers to that, hell all those that knew at 30 what they wanted to do make me sick....wait, I still don't know...
 
I am currently taking classes online with Utah Valley State College... I am bout half way through, and yes it is a Aviation Degree...but whatever works..there is no way I could get a degree in anything else... I dont have the attention span...

Thanks for all your help guys... this is a tough decision for me..
 
Used to fly a Metro for a commuter, one of the guys I was flying with was doing a correspondence course, I thought he was wasting his time. He got hired at Fed Ex.
 

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