As you can see I own a 182RG and I would much rather fly a low wing. They are much easier to fly and can handle much more crosswind (PA-28's). The 182 is a great stable IFR platform, but for initial training, I would go with an Archer or something close. The first thing you'll notice with a Piper is the quality of the appointments inside, a cessna looks and feels 2nd rate inside (cheap). Also, someone made a comment about the favorable glide characteristics of a high wing, while they, (Cessna's), glide Ok, a PA-28-161 will outglide a 172 by 15%.......check the POH of both planes and compare. If I had a scanner handy I would show you. The Pipers are also quieter. I still would take my 182 over an Arrow anyday, or a Saratoga for that matter, but for training, I like the Pipers.