Here Is A Job

[2000flyer]

Not!!!

Found this on another board. If anyone wants the email address, I can get it too.

Looking for a co-pilot for a Lear 60. We operate about 40-60 hrs a month with at least one overnite a week. Very few weekends. We are only operating one airplane so don't look to upgrade unless I die or get fired. You must have 1500hrs total time, ATP, some jet time. Lear time, and an A&P is a plus. We are Based in TN. Starting salary is $40k. Please send your 1 or 2 page resume via email.

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So, lets see here. Upgrades depend on death or retirement. By the tone of this post, what he didn't tell you, when you're not doing maintenance on the Lear, was that his car and boat gets washed and waxed once a week too. The weekend you don't fly will be spent doing his yard work.

Who knows, maybe this is a great job and a poor example of how to post a "help wanted" ad. ????????

2000Flyer

 

[ruhroa]

well at least no unreal expectations goin in ......

 

[Gulfstream 200]

ATP
Lear time
A&P
Never Upgrade
Be BUBBA's biyatch....

all for 40K.

Sounds like a winner!!!

somebody needs to slap that hick!

 

[Lear70]

I hear the banjo tones of "Deliverance" in the background too...

"You sure got a pretty mouth boy!"

 

[Brett Hull]

Great minds think alike

2000flyer. Yours is just a little faster. I was just going to post this with some derogatory comment like this guy must have a very small ...you know. I bet he tells everyone who's the captain at every stop. "Hi there counter girl. My names Bubba-Joe. I'm the captain of that ther learjet 60 model out ther."

I bet the FO has to use the hand mic because he isn't "allowed" to touch the controls.

I think the e-mail address needs to be posted so whomever wants to can tell this guy - and I use that term loosely - how big of a tool he is. Here it is.

 

[skydan]

You guys are something else!

I know these guys! The captain is a great guy. The current F/O is leaving to take a job in a Lear as Captain. The current Captains name is Dave Whitmore. He has been there and is not looking to leave so he does not want to get anyones expatation up as-far-as looking for a potential captains position as it is a one plane operation. Working conditions are great. You don't wash the airplane or do maintenance. You tell me where you can start with 1500 hrs get 40k in a Lear 60 with training. What planet are you from?

God is there anyone on this site older than 25

 

[Snakum]

God is there anyone on this site older than 25

Yeah ... me. But I'm usually about as juvenile as the rest.

Old Fart Minh

 

[Brett Hull]

Allow me

skydan,

If he's such a great guy, why didn't he just type the guy who's leaving and let him fly a little? I work for a one plane operation, we fly 40-60 hours a month. We're all typed (three of us) and we all take turns flying from the left seat. Our chief pilot isn't looking to leave either. Our new guy who started last week is an a&p also, and he's making a helluva lot more than 40K. He also gets to do more than talk on the radio.

Working conditions are great. You don't wash the airplane or do maintenance.

Then why does he want someone with an a&p?

Maybe if he wasn't such an ass, he wouldn't be losing an employee.

What's he scared of? Some young whippersnapper showing him up?

 

[skydan]

$$$$$

How do you know he is an Ass?
The guy is not as fortunate as you. Not everyone does that, in fact that is not the norm. Do you all get Capt pay? He left for more $$ and a Capt position. Don't know much else about the reasons.

I don't know all of your answers why don't you just send him an email and blast him. He Says the A&P is not required.

 

[Brett Hull]

Not trying to prolong an argument here,

but.....

You're trying to tell me that the company can afford a $6.5+ million dollar airplane, but they can't afford to pay 15 grand to get the kid a type rating? I call BS.

The guy is not as fortunate as you. Not everyone does that, in fact that is not the norm. Do you all get Capt pay?

Yes, we all get capt pay, and yes, giving your pilots a type rating is the norm unless you're talking about a very large flight department, or a very cheap chief pilot.

We just had a guy leave for a company with better equipment than us. His official first day with the new company was spent at Simuflite in his first day of getting his Lear 45 type. He gets captains pay, too.

Now if someone wants to prove me wrong, I'll gladly eat crow. I don't think that's going to happen, though.

 

[2000flyer]

Re: You guys are something else!

God is there anyone on this site older than 25

Skydan,

First, yes...I'm over 25 by quite a few years.

Second, if it's such a great job/company, why not type the FO, pay him what he's worth and keep him around for the long haul? At my previous employer, a one plane operation, all pilot's were typed and switched seats every other leg.

Why hire someone with a glass ceiling prominately held over their head? Does the CEO of the company hire a salesman and tell them "you'll never be promoted until Joe Shmoe above you is fired or dies?" Thats just nuts. It provides no incentive for a pilot, no goals, no career advancement (unless you call looking for a new job "advancement") and the morale has got to suck near the end.

This guy has to pull his ego out of his a** and get a life.

There is my $0.02.

2000Flyer

 

[Gulfstream 200]

c'mon...

this situation is pretty common in 2 pilot / 1 airplane ops.

You get a guy who is so paranoid about protecting his turf that these offerings is how he controls it....I'll bet he never lets the "biyatch" talk to the owners either.

hey, thats fine, maybe it can be a "quick type rating and move on" gig for a new guy.

whatever...

 

[Fokkerflyer]

I worked for a guy like this once, my first jet job, back when I had 1500 hrs. and the ink was still wet on my ATP. Got paid peanuts, on call 24/7, 135, but got typed in the Citation rightaway.

This man had been really sick, had a lot of bad luck in his career and, at early 50's, had finally found something steady that was going to take him to retirement.

I left almost 3 yrs later for greener pastures, no hard feelings on his behalf. He found some other guy that still works for him 6 yrs later. He knows he'll never upgrade, but he likes it there.

My point: There's a lot of these "one man shows" out there, it's a great opportunity for somebody to get his feet wet in a jet and is then expected to move on. Give'em some slack.

FF

 

[Balou]

I know some of you might not think this is a very good job , but could someone who knows the contact info and where in TN the aircraft is based, I would appriciate it. This sounds like the kind of job I have been looking for !!

Thanks in advance !