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ReportCanoa said:
He's not chest thumping. Merely pointing out that you are a fraud. Go away.

"Waaaah. Moderators, ReportCanoa is picking on me again. Could you please ban him, he's making me cry." :crying:
 
Vapp, I certainly haven't done the things you've said. And I wouldn't claim to be experienced in such matters. I'm certainly not chest thumping either. I'm saying that it IS a mistake that anyone could make. But I guess you don't make any after a 12 hour long haul hu?
 
mckpickle said:
Vapp, I certainly haven't done the things you've said. And I wouldn't claim to be experienced in such matters. I'm certainly not chest thumping either. I'm saying that it IS a mistake that anyone could make. But I guess you don't make any after a 12 hour long haul hu?

I am saying the same thing. It is a mistake that anyone could make-however, it is not a COMMON mistake. A lot of people on this board seem to think that this is some kind of everyday common error.

Sorry if I came across as being harsh, but I'm just trying to say that not all mistakes are equal. I am also trying to point out that this kind of mistake can be prevented and prevented so quite easily.
 
mckpickle said:
But I guess you don't make any after a 12 hour long haul hu?

It goes without saying that the odds are increased of making a mistake after a long time in the air. Sure mistakes can and do occur after 12 hours, but that is why one has to be especially on guard to avoid getting complacent.

Same goes for someone flying multiple legs in one day, only those odds might be increased even more due to the frequency of t/o's and landings.
 
We all make mistakes, the key is the crew atmosphere is designed to trap them before they go to far. Unfortunately sometimes it does goto far, we are all human and sometimes things just happen in the wrong sequence. Unfortunately this will not be the first or the last time.
 
sleepy said:
If (and I mean if) this crew, the controlers, the airline, etc.... were negligent, and this negligence lead to this accident, the victims have every right to sue for damages. I have to ask, if one of your family members was on that flight, are you actually saying that you would not hire a lawyer and sue Comair? I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that.

Well then you are a fool. If, I mean IF a person (FO, capt., controller) was negligent, I am sure it was still an ACCIDENT and TO SUE IS LIKE A VULTURE LOOKING FOR BLOOD MONEY.

It's like "gee, Johnny, how did you afford the Jag?"

Well, my family member died in an airplane crash and I sued the airline and NOW LOOKIE LOOK....I am rich!" How absolutely pathetic. SO NO YOU FOOL I WOULD NOT SUE COMAIR!
 
There were two questions folks asked:

(1) Will the F.O. be covered, or is there something that limits his family's claims?

The F.O.'s survivors can make claims in the same manner as the passengers. The Pilots' Claims would be limited by Worker's Compensation which is the only remedy unless some other party besides Comair / Delta is brought into this.

(2) Is Comair's insurer involved?

No, unless something had changed recently, Comair's coverage is Delta's coverage. Delta brought all of the liability coverage together along with a bunch of other back office financial functions in an effort to save money.

What stinks is that Delta's efforts to "separate" Comair may result in separate causes of action against Comair and Delta which can not be consolidated due to the conflicts of interest.

Again, something may have changed to put Comair off on its own coverage recently. Insurers are usually good at seeing conflicts of interest coming and mitigate the exposures in advance.
 
Correct me if i'm wrong but the NTSB is making it sound like the FO is at fault, however, isn't taxing up to the captain on the CRJ?
 
I'll tell you a mistake that I have never made and will never make....being able to instantly recognize a jackass on FI.

W
 
VABB said:
It goes without saying that the odds are increased of making a mistake after a long time in the air. Sure mistakes can and do occur after 12 hours, but that is why one has to be especially on guard to avoid getting complacent.

Same goes for someone flying multiple legs in one day, only those odds might be increased even more due to the frequency of t/o's and landings.

Go to bed already,loser.

Cheers
 
capt. megadeth said:
Well then you are a fool. If, I mean IF a person (FO, capt., controller) was negligent, I am sure it was still an ACCIDENT and TO SUE IS LIKE A VULTURE LOOKING FOR BLOOD MONEY.

It's like "gee, Johnny, how did you afford the Jag?"

Well, my family member died in an airplane crash and I sued the airline and NOW LOOKIE LOOK....I am rich!" How absolutely pathetic. SO NO YOU FOOL I WOULD NOT SUE COMAIR!

You know I couldn't agree with you more. I was raised in another country although I am a US citizen. And it is undeniable that the US is a very litigious country; I understand and agree with the principle of accountability, but it seems to me that it is often warped into something completely different. Righteous (selfrighteous) indignation becomes a slippery slope to greed. There is an inherent risk in most everything we do. Accountability is important, but so is the moral integrity of those who are left behind.

It would be refreshing if the process were reqiured to start with the assumption that as careful as we are, as professional as we are, and as caring and well-meaning and even kind as we might be, accidents will happen.
 

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