HELP....flight academy???

[100LL... Again!]

A while back, someone posted, asking what their buddy should do who washed out of sim at his airline. He got to the airline at low timw through a bridge preogram. Now what?

Game over for now. Other bridge preograms have their own candidates. Other airlines have higher minimums.

Brutal rality: You're gonna have to be a CFI ANYWAY, but now a poorer one with a 121 bust on your record. It is a gamble, no matter what anyone says. You'll probably make it. However, some of the best sticks in this business have choked in the sim here and there.

If you get hired with real quals, most companies will give you a little more wiggle room. Why? Because THEY have invested a lot of money in you. They now have a financial interest in your success. If YOU paid for training, then they can say g'bye, and at very little cost.

Northernmountain: You have my respect. Unfortunately, it won't get you much. But you have YOUR respect as well. I couldn't live with being a 'trainee' FO.

You bring up good points about glass, fms, crew coordination,etc. You know what though? That stuff is easily learned if you are of average intelligence. You know what most guys struggle with? IFR procedures. Low timers are not going to have exposure to the IFR environment. However, on the other hand, a 1200 hr CFI that only did primary students ain't much better on th IFR end. Airmanship should be better, though.

 

[morph]

Thanks

I understand exactly where you all are coming from. I am thankful to be able to attend a university and even get to attempt this degree and receive my ratings but it's like I won't have a life for the next 3 years while im doing it. That’s why I have thought about the military but know they want that degree. I'm also grateful for my financial situation. To make it simple you can say I didn't grow up to rich, therefore my financial aid has paid for everything. You can see why I don't want to screw this thing up. It's one thing to pay for college and fail and it's a total opposite when the majority of it is paid and you don't cut it. I guess you can just say I'm a worrywart. So 300 hrs is about how much time other institutes will give over a college career? That's good to know considering I was really thinking about leaving. I thought I'd have a better chance at a career by going to Spartan or some other flight school. What about the woft program should I still keep that as an option? Thanks.

 

[iriefeet]

thanks again

Hey Thanks again guys for all the replies and insite. I think I am going to take the advise of the majority of the people out there and stick with my local FBO. Beverly flight center in ma. One of the questions that remains is that I don't have $25K to drop at the school. I was wondering if anyone had advice on how to get financial aid or loans to be accepted at a smaller fbo. Right now I dont even have the cash for my private. ??????
thanks again

 

[100LL... Again!]

See if you can get a Sally Mae Loan. inda like a student loan, but works for non-accredited school. Ask your bank and FBO.

Other hint plow through each rating quickly, then build up cash or reduce debt while studying for the next one. Keeps the momentum up during training which can save you tons.

 

[iriefeet]

thanks

Hey thanks, I'll give it a try. I just called the flight center though and they said I should go through a local community college. But that requires an associates of wich I don't need. But I'll talk to sally mae and my local bank. Thanks again, Luke

 

[Timebuilder]

While I think that the current system of degrees is something of a scam, I recommmend you spend at least two years as a serious student. US history, math, a science, literature, and some basic writing are minimal critera, IMHO, to be a functional adult. Unfortunately, these things are rarely treated as important subjects in the public schools.

I would also seriously research the military option. If I had to do this over again, I would try that path.

 

[cyork25]

Take a look at TAB EXPRESS, i'm a student there and it really is a good program. The instructors are really great there, most are airline pilots or ex-airline pilots. If you have any questions pm me

 

[B190Captain]

Bobbysamd,

What years were you at FSI?

I was in 3-93 to 12-93. Were u there?

 

[SpocksBeard]

Spend as little as possible! Out of 300 multi I only paid for around 45 of it. The rest I built as an instructor. You just have to fly at the right flight school to get the multi time. At the university flight programs you shouldn't have anymore than 300 total at the end of a 4 year program or else you bought too much. A commercial pilot should get paid to fly and not vice versa.

 

[bobbysamd]

FSI

Bobbysamd,

What years were you at FSI?

I was in 3-93 to 12-93. Were u there?

I just missed you. I was there from August of 1991 to October of 1992.

PS-Great avatar!

 

[Bouyer]

checkout ATA

airline training academy has several great programs to choose from I have checked out alot of schools before I made my choice on ata check them out at www.flyhere.com

p.m. me with any questions

 

[Beech1900]

My 2 cents

Well i'm gona put my two cent about your situation. I was in the same boat as you are my friend. I first started out with comair and man i'm glad i left. Um after i got my ppl i took some time off searching for a good school. I went and checked out ATP, panam, FSI, Sierra. I also was looking at a budget to be able to pay after my training. I was leaning to PAN AM but the budget was to much i could'nt afford it. FSI was my number one choice but the money is what hold me back. I'm now attending GIA and i made a good choice. GREAT CFI"s which was my main concern, and they been up for a while and all F/O seemed to be where all of us want to be. Um everyone has there opinion so hope i helped you out.

P.S I think Pan Am lost its 141 cert i don't know for sure but do check it out before you attend.

 

[Beech1900]

Re: checkout ATA

airline training academy has several great programs to choose from I have checked out alot of schools before I made my choice on ata check them out at www.flyhere.com

p.m. me with any questions

ATA JUST SCREWED OVER THE STUDENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY SHUT DOWN.

 

[B190Captain]

more like getscrewedhere.com.

Hope it works out for them.

 

[embdrvr]

Many public community colleges and state universities have excellent flight/degree programs. I've personally flown with several pilots that all attended the same public university and they all impressed me. Don't rule out your local JC either. I've flown with some folks that went through those programs also and they do a great job.
The other advantage is that public schools are seldom shutting down and stealing tens of thousands of dollars. Don't fall for the BS of a "guaranteed job." Chances are it wouldn't be a job worth having if you didn't earn the right to be there.