Helicopter Jobs?

[Gulfstreamlover]

Ok (Not even close to 85K, more like 50K after a few years in EMS), the benefits are horrible (no nice pension or B Fund), and you dont fly that much (150hrs a year).

Well my thread was state police, so you're getting payed 85k to be a cop, and just happen to fly aswell. More like 300 hours a year for the state aswell, with a pension that gives you half your pay every year.

 

[Eglsfootball]

About how much do agricultural pilots make a year?

 

[avbug]

Depends on the position. Ag requires ag experience, and ag certification. Additionally, how many jobs have you considered applying for where you stand a 1 in ten chance of not leaving...because you're dead?

Birdstrike, you fly the C-12. No real difference between that and a citation. And the citation's not a whole heckuva lot faster, either...

 

[Gulfstreamlover]

Birdstrike, you fly the C-12. No real difference between that and a citation. And the citation's not a whole heckuva lot faster, either...

I've flown both (not saying you havn't avbug) and I think the Citation is totally different, the way a Citation flies is much smoother then the C12.

 

[Eglsfootball]

I work at a helicopter buisness that does a lot of fertalizer spreading. We use bell-47's. right now i throw bags, but later when i get my helicopter license would this be a good job to build hours?

 

[avbug]

Ag typically isn't an entry level position. Most insurance companies want to see a thousand hours of ag, before they'll insure you to fly ag. It's not like flight instructing, flying charter, or flying the line.

Flying an airline seat has always been an entry level position. Perhaps not a major, but only because of the competition. People come right out of flight school at fly the line, or intruct for a year and then fly the line. You fly a narrow set of destinations, a narrow set of proceedures, and within a narrow, carefully crafted performance envelope. Just as it should be.

Ag flying will utilize much of the performance envelope of the aircraft, in close proximity to obstacles, in varying conditions, often utilizing hazardous, controlled substances. You face liability for the chemical, the crop, your actions, etc. And there aren't many ag pilots that haven't brought down a powerline or two.

Additionally, wreck an airplane or something along those lines, even though it's perfectly understandable and does happen in agricultural operations from time to time, it can really haunt you when you want to move on to an airline, corporation, charter, etc. Something to think about now.

I'll add my usual caveat that building hours is flying trash. Don't build hours. Build experience. If you want hours, falsify them. Write them in your logbook. Join a PFT program and make them up as you go. Do anything. Hours are worthless. Experience is priceless. Fly ag, and you'll gain experience. I've had a lot of flights where every hour of flying is intense enough that I'd equate it to about five hundred hours of straight and level point to point flying. It's not about building hours, and it's not "hours" that any airline cares to see.

If your goal is to go fly for an airline, then you'll find that airlines view (incorrectly) ag pilots as cowboys...the experience you gain flying row crops, seeding, firefighting, etc, may be held against you. This comes from a lack of understanding of the professionalism and requirements of the job. It comes from ancient history with lots of inexperienced pilots trying to be ag pilots, crashing, and dying. It's not that way, though the image is certainly there. But it can haunt you just the same. Believe me.

If your goal is to to on to fly other types of helicopter operations, however, helo ag time is good flight experience. it's demanding experience, far more demanding than many other kinds of flying. You work hard, and you're earning your money.

You may find that if you want to fly ag, you need to go do other types of flying, and then come back to it. Regardless of your background and experience, be prepared to be accepted as a newcomer and a student, and to be treated like that. That's hard for some experienced pilots to take...but it really isn't an entry level job.

 

[tach32]

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Co-Pilot II
American Express - Newburgh, NY, United States (profile)

Full-time
Qualifications
Commerical Rotorcraft licence, helicopter instrument rating, 1500 flight hours, and First Class Medical are required. The following qualifications are desired, actual IFR experience, multi-engine time, turbine experience, corporate or VIP experience, and NYC (or large Metropolitan area) experience.

Duties / Responsibilites
This position is responsible for participating as a member of the flight crew in the safe in-flight control of the Company''s aircraft, as well as all assigned pre and post flight preparations. Incumbent must contribute to the efficiency of the Aviation Department by maintaining required flight manuals, FAA required logs and assigned ancillary projects.


Compensation / Benefits
Enjoy many advantages such as an excellent benefits package including medical/dental/vision effective day one, 401(k) with immediate eligibility for contribution, and much more!

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American Express is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

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