Heli gun camera footage

[wil]

Remember that our former Commander in Chief dogged the draft by promising to enroll in ROTC (which he never did).
Any statements about "having to serve" to make credible one's belief in the use of force has been made null and void by the Clinton presidency.

 

[LJDRVR]

Wil,

I wasn't talking about the belief in use of force, (I'm all for it) I was talking about individuals reacting to graphic use of force by taking delight in the violent end of a human being.

"And how about that other dumba$$ (#3) that almost got away until he stuck his friggin' head out from beside the truck."

Yeah "dude" that was way cool!

"Those guys had no friggin' clue what was going on until the first dude got nailed."

"OMFG!!!! Where did you find that little footy?"

My rant is directed at those children here who posted the drivel such as the examples above. (As I put this post together, I see that it is actually more like one or two children)

Cheers

 

[skyking1976]

Wil,

I wasn't talking about the belief in use of force, (I'm all for it) I was talking about individuals reacting to graphic use of force by taking delight in the violent end of a human being.

"And how about that other dumba$$ (#3) that almost got away until he stuck his friggin' head out from beside the truck."

Yeah "dude" that was way cool!

"Those guys had no friggin' clue what was going on until the first dude got nailed."

"OMFG!!!! Where did you find that little footy?"

My rant is directed at those children here who posted the drivel such as the examples above. (As I put this post together, I see that it is actually more like one or two children)

Cheers

I agree with you. It's sad when a state of affairs is as such that you have to take lives in order to ensure peace and freedom. The whole reason I posted the link was to illustrate the reason we are fighting in the Middle East. Terrorists get their funding from drugs. Take out the farmers growing them and you cut funding to buy explosives and AK-47's. Just one step closer to quelling terrorist activities.

SK

 

[jarhead]

LJDRVR

Just to be technically correct, in a previous post of yours, you stated the AH-64 Apache has a 20 mm chain gun. It is 30 mm

Also, I did serve, and I take a viseral pleasure at the violent deaths of people who would make war against me and my country. But, maybe that's just me. Revenge is an emotion that all can feel if they are honest about it, and not get into some politically correct mode.

 

[Dieterly]

Bill Clinton did what!!!!

 

[niloc]

What I find disturbing is not the video itself, but the fact that people are getting such great enjoyment out of seeing people die. I understand why we are over there and totally agree that we have to do what we have to do. War is a necessary evil, but it doesn't mean we have to take pleasure in it. Let's just get the job done and come home.

 

[Super 80]

The military does not go out and whack farmers over growing pot. The U.S. military does not kill just to kill without knowing they can be tried under the UCMJ. If they hunt and kill these guys I'm going to assume they have the intell to say they are the bad guys. I would be nice to have the testimony of one of the people involved to know exactly what is going on. I find it interesting that target #2 is not trying to hide but is feverishly working on something.

So before saying this is an example of our guys winning one, or the opposite posted at anti-war sites like globalresearch.ca that use this same video clip to show how we massacre innocent Iraqis...all I can say is 'if "they" want to get you, they can.' Like the lesson from the AC-130 gunship, 'you can run but you can't get away.' Or the lesson of Saddam's spider hole, 'you can hide, but you can't get away.'

I showed it to my son, so he can see the horrors of war too. My advice to him if he was ever in a similar situation was to find a depression to hide in until long after the shooting stops, don't move and cover yourself with cold dirt.

 

[Dieterly]

My advice to him if he was ever in a similar situation was to find a depression to hide in until long after the shooting stops, don't move and cover yourself with cold dirt.

Is that what jesus would have done?

 

[skyking1976]

Is that what jesus would have done?

Just don't even start. New flightinfo rule. All thread-jackings must take the direction of BBQ or beer.
SK

 

[Super 80]

Is that what jesus would have done?

Well a few times when they were trying to kill Jesus, He slipped out of their grasp, so preserving your life is not necessarily immoral or sinful. On the other hand when it came down to doing the Will of the Father, when it really mattered, Jesus laid His Life down on the cross as a ransom for many. (i.e. Jesus did not die from the execution itself, but when His job was done He gave up His Spirit.) So the answer is that it depends upon the situation.

If nothing is more important than your (physical) life that you are willing to do anything to preserve it, like accepting the mark of the beast, then you will lose your (eternal) life.

Again it's a matter of circumstance; the right choice from a Christian perspective will take some discernment on the part of the Christian in light of any future situation.

If some army is trying to hunt me down simply because of the fact that I am an American, when faced with overriding firepower: duck and cover.

If on the other hand I am faced with the choice of denying my faith in Christ Jesus or facing death, let me remember what is written for that situation (Mt 10:19-20; Mk 13:11; Luke 12:11-12).

Choose wisely.

 

[Chas]

Hey Dieterly Thanks!!

for that clip of my President Landing on the carrier I never got to see my C.I.C . on that video . It was marvelous.As far as Byrd the former KKK member he is a senile old wind bag .

 

[spitfire1940]

i think superfluff was right about it being an Apache.

a friend of mine in the Army told me about the site ... said that he was told by someone int he know that the Apache was about 300 AGL and around 1,700 meters from the site. The targets would have heard a helicopter in the distance, but I guess the bad guys in Iraq don't stop and hide everytime they hear a helicopter.

also, he said the apache crew had been watching them for a while. and they were transferring RPGs between vehicles.

 

[SuperFLUF]

If those vehicles were running and the Apache crew was using proper combat tactics, they probably couldn't hear anything until it was too late. I haven't seen the entire clip but they did sit there for a while and receive clearance to fire from the higher ups.

This was not just some "buckaroos" out whackin' innocent Iraqi's. These were American soldiers protecting American soldiers under the rules of engagment. By the book.

 

[huncowboy]

Yes it was disturbing to watch it. But it does not come even close to the 9/11 videos of people taking those death jumps from the top floors. Nothing more disturbing IMO when a perfectly healthy and sane person decides to jump. Just think about how much horror would You need to experience to make that decision while you are thinking of your loved ones. Nothing more disturbing.

Compared to jumping, these guys at least were finished within a second or less. Also these combatants in the heli video probably had a chance to surrender before it all started. Plus with soldiers (if they were soldiers) this is always something that may happen. However if you are an office worker you’ve never signed up for the possibility that someone blows the building away under your butt.

But Newton's 3rd law is what? Action and reaction. What had to be done was done and is being done. That is acceptable to me. It does not make me wish to see the video again, there is also a reason why I never visit rotten.com.