Healthcare coverage at CO

[Truckdriver]

Am I reading this right? Two parents, one kid, and income of $2560/mo or less qualifies you for Medicaid?

Why would anyone COBRA or buy catastrophic? Is Medicaid that bad?

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/wichd/secure-pol/2005_pdf_files/CS_12-0.pdf

Here is the link to the Texas WIC site. It has the income requirements for all you IAH based guys. I'm sure it is similar in other states. And for Ben, this is not by any means a slam at CAL, just passing on info to save a few of you guys some cash if you so choose to go the government provided route.

 

[Jonny Sacko]

And very original. Good one Ben. I would rather cross a few belts than have no health insurance. Not such a big deal to those of who are not lazy employees who don't pitch in and help the team out.

I'm not going to say anything else, except; after 6 months.

 

[Truckdriver]

I'm not going to say anything else, except; after 6 months.

OK. Lets say you are on the 73 for the first two years then go to the 75/76 for the next three years. At JB lets say you are on the 320 for two years then upgrade on the 190 for the next three years. I'm not going to figure in upgrade at CAL on the 73 or upgrade at JB on the 320. Both are looking likely during the first 5 years but we won't look at that now. If we did, 5 year 73 CA rates are 135/hr and JB 320 rates are 120/hr up to 70 and then 180/hr above 70. JB guys would make more flying a 90 hour line than a CAL guy but we won't look at that for this calculation. If JB guys get a 3% rasie next month on the 320 and a 5% raise on the 190, over the course of the first five years flying a 90 hour month you would make a total of 358560 at CAL and 460800 at JB. That is 102000 more at JB. CAL would put about 12% (not sure about when you get to 12% but I'll figure it in from day one which I don't think it is) in your DC plan for a total of about 43K. JBLU would put about $15K into your 401K under the current plan and the upcomong bump in 401K match would put that at about 23K. The way I figure it with retierment and pay I'll make about 80K more at JBLU.

That's the quick math. So you actually should say, "I'm not going to say anything else except after 5 years."

 

[Palomino]

Truckdriver...why the rip on CAL?

I don't care where you work if you enjoy the job. Obviously, there is plenty of ammo to fire from both sides - at JetBlue and CAL both. We have plenty of room to work and I think a Union does help with that cause - IF the right people man the positions.

Hopefully, JetBlue will raise the payscale of their mainline aircraft and things will continue to improve for the entire industry. CAL has lots of work to do on many fronts concerning the pilot contract. I think we'll get there. This CBA is leaving a lasting impression around here.

Best of luck and thanks for your service to Continental while you were at Continental Express.

 

[Truckdriver]

Truckdriver...why the rip on CAL?

I don't care where you work if you enjoy the job. Obviously, there is plenty of ammo to fire from both sides - at JetBlue and CAL both. We have plenty of room to work and I think a Union does help with that cause - IF the right people man the positions.

Hopefully, JetBlue will raise the payscale of their mainline aircraft and things will continue to improve for the entire industry. CAL has lots of work to do on many fronts concerning the pilot contract. I think we'll get there. This CBA is leaving a lasting impression around here.

Best of luck and thanks for your service to Continental while you were at Continental Express.

Palomino,

First, stating that it is pathetic that a company such as CAL does not provide health insurance from day one is not a rip on CAL. I think 100% of the newhires would state the same.

Second, I was attempting to show some of the guys going to CAL that they can get FREE insurance. Not ripping CAL just throwing out an option for them to explore to help them out.

Third, I wasn't the one who brought JetBlue into this thread. When others start ripping on my employer without me bringing it up, I'll defend.

Finally, I did enjoy working at XJT and it was a great company. I have lots of good friends that are working at CAL and I wish no will ill on any airline or any fellow pilot. Sorry if I came across that way, but when the JetBlue bashers come out swinging, I come out swinging harder.

 

[Ben Franklin]

Sorry if I came across that way, but when the JetBlue bashers come out swinging, I come out swinging harder.

Seems like you came out "swinging" first by telling us all to be in disbelief (kind of pathetic...) that a legacy carrier doesn't offer health ins. for 6 months. You took one portion of a 25-35 year career at CAL out of context and tried to make it the biggest issue since the holocaust.

btw, the requirement for you to clean airplanes while non-revving/working the flight came from your own website.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

 

[Truckdriver]

btw, the requirement for you to clean airplanes while non-revving/working the flight came from your own website.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin

I know, it's also in my 5-year contract that I signed.

 

[IAHERJ]

OK. Lets say you are on the 73 for the first two years then go to the 75/76 for the next three years. At JB lets say you are on the 320 for two years then upgrade on the 190 for the next three years. I'm not going to figure in upgrade at CAL on the 73 or upgrade at JB on the 320. Both are looking likely during the first 5 years but we won't look at that now. If we did, 5 year 73 CA rates are 135/hr and JB 320 rates are 120/hr up to 70 and then 180/hr above 70. JB guys would make more flying a 90 hour line than a CAL guy but we won't look at that for this calculation. If JB guys get a 3% rasie next month on the 320 and a 5% raise on the 190, over the course of the first five years flying a 90 hour month you would make a total of 358560 at CAL and 460800 at JB. That is 102000 more at JB. CAL would put about 12% (not sure about when you get to 12% but I'll figure it in from day one which I don't think it is) in your DC plan for a total of about 43K. JBLU would put about $15K into your 401K under the current plan and the upcomong bump in 401K match would put that at about 23K. The way I figure it with retierment and pay I'll make about 80K more at JBLU.

That's the quick math. So you actually should say, "I'm not going to say anything else except after 5 years."

Just curious, are you using the blended rates in your figures are just small narrowbody rates. I've seen a lot of people say "737" and just use the small rates when half or more of your flying is in the 800/900 not to mention those of us who only spend 6 months on the 737 and now fly the 757/767 and are at an even higher rate for year 2. For example, my December line is now worth 110 hours of pay for flying 85 hours. This is by choice as I picked up a 5 day HNL for some WB pay as well as an AMS trip was picked up and 2 LGW's were dropped. If I flew a schedule like this for 12 months I'd make over 83K for my 2nd year. I can assure you that I won't fly this much because I don't need to but a father supporting a family could easily do it with 12 days off. We have no limit on hours anymore so we too can whore ourselves out and fly to the max for money should we decide to.
Good luck over there. I've got a few good friends hoping the Blue brings them much prosperity in the future. I hope it does as well for them.

IAHERJ

 

[SteelerMan]

Also, remember you have 90 days to sign up for Cobra from your previous employer, if you were to need it.

 

[Palomino]

6 month wait for insurance does suck. is that such a deterrent that i would turn down the job? absolutely not. i'm happy where i am and hopeful for the future.

everyone has a choice to make. i chose to seek a career path that should meet my needs as i age. hopefully it pans out.