Heads up for anyone flying to Hawaii.

[igneousy2]

When did jumpesating become a right? You are not guaranteed a seat as a jumpseater. You should still ride a Captains discretion. He signed for the plane, it is his choice not your's as to whether or not you ride. Perhaps your Mesaism about "they should be careful as they may want to ride mesa someday!!!" is lame. I have a feeling most people would avoid riding on a Mesa plane at all cost. Unless you are the only airline servicing somewhere and it did not have roads as an alternate then perhaps I would consider riding your airline. But I think staying home would be a better option than riding on the dangerous skies of mesa.

That is one of the problems with you kids in the industry today. You think everything is an entitlement (jumpseat) It isn't. There were times when jumpseats were not given as freely as they are today and you had to show some type of decorum and respect to those that were giving you a ride. Today you people think you can slink on without saying hello or thank you and believe that it is "COOOOOL DUUUUUUDE". When are you guys going to grow up? When you stop playing airline pilot and become one?

That's one of the problems with you old farts in the industry...you think you are everyones fathers and bestow the PRIVILEDGE of YOUR jumpseat on us.

Oh thank you Old Keeper of the Jumpseat.

I AM an airline pilot and I will gladly extend the professional courtesy of the jumpseat to any other airline pilot that doesn't act like an asshole in the 10 seconds it takes for me to sign the form.

Later

By the way, I dont' work for Mesa. I hate to break the news to you but chances are, if youv'e done much jumpseating on the mainland you probably already have flown on Mesa.

 

[32LT10]

That's one of the problems with you old farts in the industry...you think you are everyones fathers and bestow the PRIVILEDGE of YOUR jumpseat on us.

Oh thank you Old Keeper of the Jumpseat.

I may be old, but I do know that if I were to ask anyone for a ride I would do it with professional courtesy and not with the flippant attitude I get from some of these commuter pilots today. Some have said as little as nothing as they take seats in the cabin and others when the flight was full would come to the cockpit and say, "I guess I am riding up here". In almost 30 years of flying I have only denied two pilots the jumpseat. One for attire and one for drinking. However, would you show up to someones house, that you did not know, ring the door bell and tell the person that answered the door, "well I guess I am eating here"? Maybe that is what you guys would do but it is not proper.

This is more of a problem I see at the ALPA national level. ALPA has been so bent on getting dues dollars from every scumbag operation in the industry that they have let the entry requirements drop to a new low. ALPA should be ashamed that they have allowed the likes of Mesa and others to join. It is not as if they are raising the bar in their segment of the industry because they are represented by ALPA. ALPA has become a daycare center for RJ pilots.

 

["Luke"]

Very well said.

 

[mdanno808]

That's one of the problems with you old farts in the industry...you think you are everyones fathers and bestow the PRIVILEDGE of YOUR jumpseat on us.

Oh thank you Old Keeper of the Jumpseat.

I AM an airline pilot and I will gladly extend the professional courtesy of the jumpseat to any other airline pilot that doesn't act like an asshole in the 10 seconds it takes for me to sign the form.

Later

By the way, I dont' work for Mesa. I hate to break the news to you but chances are, if youv'e done much jumpseating on the mainland you probably already have flown on Mesa.

I have jumpseated on Mesa many, many times, and they have always been great. I hope that the same courtesy is extended to their pilots in Hawaii, as long as they are not violating the policy in order to save their cheap a$$ CEO some money. Guys like you who don't care about that are enabling the sodomization of pilots by management. You know what? I prefer old farts with an understanding of history, policy, and the airline business as a whole to a retard who not only doesn't have a clue, but doesn't even care. Read Flying the line, and try to imagine what some of these old farts went through so we would have what he have (or used to have pre 9/11) today.

Now, I'm not saying use the jumpseat as a political tool, or a way to punish one group of pilot's whom you don't care for. However, don't allow airline management to use the jumpseat as a repositioning tool when they should be forking out tickets. If we allow this what's next, getting crew rest on the airplane (had to say it. sorry soverytired. I keed, I keed).

BTW, I agree that slowing in the channel, or rolling to the end of 4R rather than making K, or making derogatory comments on the radio is juvenile. But so is bragging about being able to fly empty for up to five years charging fares which guarantee a loss even with load factors in the 90 percentile. JO started the bad blood, and unfortunately his employees are going to be the one's who face the consequences. I don't think it is right, nor do I think that it is fair, but it is the truth, as ugly as it is.

 

[ableone]

I no longer allow Mesa pilots a seat on flights to or from the islands.

That's one.