Hawker 900 XP Vspeeds

[hawkerjet]

Sorry for the double post, I originally posted this on the Frax site thinking there was a better chance of response with all the Hawkers in Frax operations. Anyway here is my question.

On the TOLD cards provided by Hawker Beechcraft they have the V speeds listed as;
V1 Vr V2 Vfto & Vse. Very simple and straight forward. Now our company ops requires us to cross check V speeds and W&B with Ultrnav and the Ultranav doesn't have Vse they have Venr. While Venr means single engine enroute climb what is the difference? I am in the process of playing phone tag with Ultranav but I decided to get your input.
Anybody have an answer....

 

[Beechjetr]

Vse isn't listed anywhere in the POM or the AFM. Verc is the final single engine climb speed (above 1500' agl).

I have some of those HBC TOLD cards, and they're pretty generic. They mean Verc.

Now, try finding Verc on the FMS... another story.

What do you think of the 900?

 

[ultrarunner]

On the 900 you're actually filling out a paper TOLD card? Do you also set the bugs on the PFD? I would think your company would want your TOLD card to match the nomenclature on the PFD.

 

[Beechjetr]

There is no "bug" for Verc, and it is not generated by the FMS until after Weight Off Wheels. I think most people bug Verc with the unlabelled speed bug on takeoff.

 

[hawkerjet]

I fly a Chinese registered aircraft and accordingly have to follow their rules. The aviation governing body wants to see our flight plans & Wx ( done by Universal) W&B sheets ( via American Aeronautics) and TOLD cards.
As far as flying the 900XP I think it's a great airplane. Just flew a 2300nm trip against 30kt headwinds in a respectable 6hour 12 minute time. I haven't been in a Hawker for a while ( 400 fan, 600viper & fan and 700 series) so the 900 is a lot more than I was used to. The ability to get to FL410 in 21 minutes is a bonus. Same baggage issues that the 750 addresses albeit with a shorter range. Not as fancy as the Gulfstreams I had been flying because it still is that 40 something year old airframe and systems with a modern avionics suite. Getting rid of the annunciators and installing auto throttles and EICAS would be a natural next step.

 

[hawkerjet]

Thanks for the heads up. It had been right in front of me the whole time. the AFM lists Venr. I can't find Vse in the AFM. Hawker Beechcraft still hasn't answered my emails. Thanks guys...