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Don't broadcast speed on radio

In 1990 I was doing proving runs with FAA to put the DHC-6 on a 135-scheduled commuter certificate. Drummond Island Air. We were flying into APN from DTW at our max speed of 170 Kts IAS. Radar tells us they have faster traffic over taking us going into APN; we are at 7,000'. It is Great Lakes B-1900; he comes screaming us by with about a 1/2 mile VFR separation. The Fed on the jumpseat says "Ask him how fast he is going" So I call him on the freq. and ask "Boy that thing is really moving out, how fast are you going?" The 1900 comes back with "We got this thing on the Red Line 272 Kts" Fed picks up the mike and says "This is FAA insp. Jones, see me on the ground" Should have seen how quickly the B-1900 slowed down. Fed gave him a warning.
 
pilotyip said:
In 1990 I was doing proving runs with FAA to put the DHC-6 on a 135-scheduled commuter certificate. Drummond Island Air. We were flying into APN from DTW at our max speed of 170 Kts IAS. Radar tells us they have faster traffic over taking us going into APN; we are at 7,000'. It is Great Lakes B-1900; he comes screaming us by with about a 1/2 mile VFR separation. The Fed on the jumpseat says "Ask him how fast he is going" So I call him on the freq. and ask "Boy that thing is really moving out, how fast are you going?" The 1900 comes back with "We got this thing on the Red Line 272 Kts" Fed picks up the mike and says "This is FAA insp. Jones, see me on the ground" Should have seen how quickly the B-1900 slowed down. Fed gave him a warning.

That is funny, however you should have reminded the fed that you are a 135 operation and that you keep the cockpit sterile below 10,000! and politly tell him to maintain silence as well!

Or tell him to do it himself. When he grabs the hand mic snatch it from him and have him arrested when you land for interfernce with a crew member.
 
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we were at cruise altitude in the mightly DHC-6 at 7,000', sterile cockpit did not apply. We had already had many impolite conversations with FAA over a variety of subjects during the proving runs.
 
Sterile cockpit for anything that's not safety related - 272 kias, under 10000 with a 1/2 mile seperation might be safety related.
 
He did not grab, he politely asked.
 
SheGaveMeClap said:
ATL will spank you for exceeding 200 kt. in the underlying airspace below the Class B.

To answer the original question, no.

Yeah I've gotten it there too, in and out of PDK and FTY
 
Was observing on a pc 12 flight going into SAN and heard the controller give that "please call ***-***-**** " and found out that he got a 250 knot warning for doing 260 ground speed....
turn out the 12 driver was only at 230 kias ...so the supervisor got involved and it all went away...and the supervisor stated the controller was fresh off the farm
 
SoCal controllers get on you about doing 200kias under the LAX airspace coming up from the south around the SNA area - I've heard a lot guys get a slap on the wrist for it, but never violated.

HMR - As far as that chief pilot, his philosophy is "Barber pole is not a limit, it's a goal."
 

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