Has anyone here ever rolled an airplane???

[crzepilot]

You can roll anything once

 

[Lostdog65]

BTW...a 400 series Cessna is not a good airplane to roll in any sense of the word...any idea why Bob Hoover liked the Aero Commander so much????

Didn't say any 400 series...just the 402C...

Eric

 

[$$$4nothin]

I have never rolled a C-310, baron, navajo, steerman, cherokee 140, cherokee 6, or saratoga, and i have never been in a Leer while it was rolled. Oh the FO wasnt sleeping while it happened either

 

[FlyingFisherman]

A C-310R doesn't roll nicely. Neither does a AA1A Yankee. These were not approved aircraft to roll and I can only assume that means THEY don't ROLL NICELY.

 

[yasir1212]

I rolled an ERJ and it flew pretty nicely (ofcourse it was done in the full-motion sim)

 

[81Horse]

Beech 99's, not being approved for it, also would not roll well.

 

[NoPax]

Airplanes are not "approved" to roll, they are however, prohibited from performing certain maneuvers, and/or have limitations placarded for other manuevers..ie

Snap Roll - entry speed less than XX KCAS
Accellerated Stalls - prohibited.

Just make sure that everyone is wearing a parachute if you are going to perform an aerobatic maneuver.

 

[81Horse]

Airplanes are not "approved" to roll, they are however, prohibited from performing certain maneuvers, and/or have limitations placarded for other manuevers...

Standing corrected on the proper terminology.

Just make sure that everyone is wearing a parachute if you are going to perform an aerobatic maneuver.

Not that you'd want to bail out through the "crew door" of a Beech 99.

 

[NoPax]

Not that you'd want to bail out through the "crew door" of a Beech 99.

Exactly...or a Twin Commander's crew door!

...and it would be a very dire situation to make me want to bail out of anything.

 

[G21Agoose]

I agree with the safety issues expressed- if you don't know how DON'T.
But I knew a guy in Africa named Rob Tasker who used to roll lots of types- after shooting approaches in a B-55 he would barrel roll it beautifully.
He used to wear white leather gloves and would roll the Baron from the right seat with the control column still on the left side. BUT he was an ex-Rhodesian Air Force fighter pilot and a test pilot for the RAF.

I am a corporate pilot and the only thing I roll is my chart case- and I crash that quite often!

 

[ATRedneck]

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[RefugePilot]

Most of the basic aerobatic mnvrs are sub 3-g, Loops and rolls being amongst them, as long as you do them right. If you make a mistake it could exceed the normal category g-loading. You should rent an aerobic airplane and instructor to see what can really be done and maybe get some upset training as well.

I have heard of a loop being done in a C152, it was very easy, from what I have heard.

Have Fun

 

[RefugePilot]

Kershners Book

To get a feel for whats involved in the manuevers check out William Kershners aerobatic book at http://www.kershnerflightmanuals.com/. I used to have it on the shelf and learned a lot about many of the basic maneuvers. Unfortunatly, I have only been able to test them out on X-plane flight sim.

 

[The_Russian]

You know what?

If you can't roll it properly.....you should not be flying it. Anyone that needs aerobatic lessons to roll an aircraft lacks basic manuevering knowledge and should not be flying aircraft. Period. They all fly the same anyway. If for some reason you find yourself inverted, you had better be able to get out of it.

 

[NoPax]

You know what?

If you can't roll it properly.....you should not be flying it. Anyone that needs aerobatic lessons to roll an aircraft lacks basic manuevering knowledge and should not be flying aircraft. Period. They all fly the same anyway. If for some reason you find yourself inverted, you had better be able to get out of it.

Most non-aerobatic pilots will instinctively pull when 'finding themselves inverted'...not roll - it's refered to as a 'panic pull'. Also, when two airplanes get close to each other, same thing - people instinctively pull.

It is the safe thing to do - aerobatic instruction for an aerobatic maneuver.

You need aerobatic instruction because that's what the aerobatics instructor does all day long - rolls, loops, spins, and combinations of them. Also, by practicing with an aerobatics instructor you are practicing with someone who's body is used to +3gs, and is conditioned for the mistakes you will invariably make, while others will fade to black.

I have not flown with any pilot that handles the airplane the same as one that has an aerobatics background - they are a class apart.

If you pull 3g with no roll, that is one thing, but go ahead and pull 3gs then initiate a roll and watch your wings crinkle before your eyes. You have increased the dynamic forces created by the ailerons on the wing, and will overstress most normal, commuter and transport category airplanes.

The reason people need instruction, is to avoid the 'trial and error' of your moronic suggestion.