cougar12
Unite Brothers & Sisters
- Joined
- Mar 20, 2008
- Posts
- 136
chainring,
You might be right, however I think you might be abandoning the ship a little early. The IBT employs the same advisers and attorneys that worked for Net Jets when they negotiated their contract. They have seen this stuff before and I am sure they have a plan. I know you think that single carrier status filling would be the way to go and in the short term it might be, KR could integrate the seniority list and we would become one happy family but nothing prevents KR's replacement coming in and undoing it. And I think that is the primary thing the union is trying to prevent from being a possibility.
While KR can not force single carrier status he can only apply the pressure you seem to be falling for. However the NLRB will force KR to negotiate or they will give him the contract and he will have to accept it. So to say he won't negotiate is false. Yes, he wants the union gone and he might get it if members don't stay strong. Winding us down or closing FO down will not be as easy as you think. Do you really think the Teamsters International would let a investment group buy a non union company shift the contacts and employees of a union company and not say anything about it? Do you think this hasn't been tried before? If it was so easy their wouldn't be any unions left in aviation or the transportation industry for that matter. KR is smart but he is not a super genius. The union has and is continuing to try to work with KR on all of these issues but it takes both parties to make compromises and work toward a common goal. I am hopeful that things will change when it is time for contract negotiations. I hope things work out for both brands and the company!
We all have invested a lot and believed in what we were doing was helping grow this company, the long days, lowest pay, no 401k, smiling while owners yell at us for being their rescue plane,and KR offers you an sic job at pic pay and year one seniority and you think it's time to jump over to flex?
I think we should stay a little longer and give the union our support. I think time is on the unions side.
You might be right, however I think you might be abandoning the ship a little early. The IBT employs the same advisers and attorneys that worked for Net Jets when they negotiated their contract. They have seen this stuff before and I am sure they have a plan. I know you think that single carrier status filling would be the way to go and in the short term it might be, KR could integrate the seniority list and we would become one happy family but nothing prevents KR's replacement coming in and undoing it. And I think that is the primary thing the union is trying to prevent from being a possibility.
While KR can not force single carrier status he can only apply the pressure you seem to be falling for. However the NLRB will force KR to negotiate or they will give him the contract and he will have to accept it. So to say he won't negotiate is false. Yes, he wants the union gone and he might get it if members don't stay strong. Winding us down or closing FO down will not be as easy as you think. Do you really think the Teamsters International would let a investment group buy a non union company shift the contacts and employees of a union company and not say anything about it? Do you think this hasn't been tried before? If it was so easy their wouldn't be any unions left in aviation or the transportation industry for that matter. KR is smart but he is not a super genius. The union has and is continuing to try to work with KR on all of these issues but it takes both parties to make compromises and work toward a common goal. I am hopeful that things will change when it is time for contract negotiations. I hope things work out for both brands and the company!
We all have invested a lot and believed in what we were doing was helping grow this company, the long days, lowest pay, no 401k, smiling while owners yell at us for being their rescue plane,and KR offers you an sic job at pic pay and year one seniority and you think it's time to jump over to flex?
I think we should stay a little longer and give the union our support. I think time is on the unions side.
