Gulstream Int'l Chief Pilot Checkride

[Mike man]

Isn't a 441 ride a little different than a PC?

 

[AftCG182]

Lucky for you, you have 1900 time. It is THE greatest plane ever designed. Its like the fat girl in highschool; you dated her not because you wanted other people to know about it but because it simply felt good to you.

Right on, brother. The Mighty Beech!!! She was my "Queen of the Skys" until I came across the Piaggio.

Long live the Mighty Beech!

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

...Nah, that was mean.

 

[TheInsider]

Isn't a 441 ride a little different than a PC?

FAR 121.441 is a PC, initial or recurrent. Short-version explanation: No maneuver can be trained and re-checked on the initial PC for a type-rating and PIC check. On a recurrent PC the applicant is allowed two separate maneuvers to be re-trained and re-checked once. The check airman can both train and re-check. More than two failed items, and if a maneuver is failed a second time it is a failure of the PC. A company designated check airman (the "not issuing a certificate" type check airman) can administer a recurrent PC. An initial type-rating PC is really two checks: One is a 121.441 check (for 121 airlines) and the other is the type-rating. For a 441 ride the "outcome of a maneuver must never be in doubt" while for a type-rating "the outcome of a maneuver must never be seriously in doubt". You can, technically get a type-rating during the ride but fail the 441 portion, requiring a re-check. That re-check can then be done by a company check airman.

Do they use hats a GIA?

 

[Flyer1015]

It's ok, he'll pass the checkride once he ponies up the $30k........

 

[airmack]

I hear that if you don't wear your hat during all training events, it's an automatic bust and you have to go back to hat retraining

 

[Mike man]

What is the bad FAA ride? Isn't that like a 403 ride or something?

 

[TheInsider]

What is the bad FAA ride? Isn't that like a 403 ride or something?

The test you are talking about could be used in instances where a pilot, let's say after a mishap, incident or accident that may have been due to pilot error, will have to be tested on knowledge and skills to reinstate a certificate or rating after revocation. This test may also be used if an airman have shown great deficiencies. I have never experienced a pilot having his or her certificates revoked due to a failed test but I guess the FAA could use it if there's a serious deficiency in competency.