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Bankruptcy Judge Extends NWA Deadline
(AP) NEW YORK A U.S. bankruptcy judge on Thursday granted a motion by Northwest Airlines Corp. to extend the deadline for the airline to exclusively file its reorganization plan, before creditors can submit alternate proposals.
U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Allan Gropper ruled that Northwest had made enough progress on its Chapter 11 restructuring plan to justify the extension of the deadline to Jan. 15. After that, creditors will have until March 16 to submit their responses.
The extension marks the second for the nation’s fourth-largest airline, which asked in January to have the deadline pushed back to July 13.
Attorneys for both Northwest and its creditors, which did not contest the motion, said they were optimistic that at least the bulk of the case could be resolved by the new deadline.
“Your honor, I believe that we have achieved a number of milestones,” Northwest attorney Mark Ellenberg said, adding that the airline has worked to resolve issues with its labor unions and restructured most of its aircraft fleet.
“I think we’ve made excellent progress but there’s still a lot to do.”
Also Thursday, Gropper wrote in a memorandum of law that he would grant Northwest’s motion to let it impose terms on its holdout flight attendants—but then said his order would be stayed for two weeks so they could keep negotiating.
Northwest has new agreements in place with all its major unions except the flight attendants, who rejected a tentative agreement on June 6 with 80 percent of the vote. Northwest then asked Gropper to give it permission to impose its own terms on them.
The ruling was a partial victory for Northwest. It gets to impose terms—after two more weeks of talks. If those talks fail, Gropper said Northwest could impose the agreement that flight attendants rejected—not the harsher offer Northwest made earlier in negotiations.
Still, Gropper wrote that talks had gone on nearly long enough.
“Unless real progress is made in the negotiations, however, any additional delay would be inappropriate, as it would fail to recognize the Debtors financial plight and their need to move their Chapter 11 cases toward a conclusion,” he wrote.
Northwest spokesman Kurt Ebenhoch had no immediate comment on the ruling. PFAA spokeswoman Karen Schultz did not immediately return a phone message.
Flight attendants have threatened a strike if the airline imposes terms—but they have agreed in court not to start one for at least 15 days after Northwest imposes terms. That would push the earliest possible strike date to the end of July or early August. Also, Northwest has said any strike would be illegal.
Flight attendants are the last major Northwest union without a new contract. But the contracts for the other major unions don’t take effect until they all do. In the meantime, they are operating under temporary concessions approved by Gropper.
The flight attendants ran an ad in Thursday’s Star Tribune of Minneapolis showing Northwest CEO Doug Steenland playing a violin, exhorting him to “Stop fiddling around” and reach a bargain. Ebenhoch had no comment on the ad.
The January deadline will mark 16 months in bankruptcy for the Eagan, Minn.-based airline, which filed for Chapter 11 protection on Sept. 14.
http://wcco.com/local/local_story_180151556.html
 
The word on the street is PFAA will not strike if NWA imposes the contract that was the TA Flight attendants voted down. This will effectively remove the FAs right to vote on their imposed contract.
 
What happens to NW if the FA's decide to walk out? What will judge Gropper do then?
 
WRV said that the FAs were gonna kick Steenland's ass... wonder what happened? :confused:


yeah? Well the "over-paid" vending machines were the only ones that were able to take the so called "smart enemy"(ALPA term) to task. Instead of high-priced over-paid ALPA attorneys,,,all that needed to be done was go out to the playground,,, take little bully Steenland's stick out of his hand,,,smack him on his butt with it and send him back home to mommy.

The former little bully will come back on the playground the next day with apology in hand.

Never fails.

JUDGE GROPPER GRANTS NWA'S MOTION TO REJECT PFAA CONTRACT (06/29/06)

US Bankruptcy Court Judge Gropper today issued a 35 page decision granting
Northwest's motion to reject its collective bargaining agreement with the
PFAA. Judge Gropper found that Northwest had met all the statutory
requirements for rejection of the PFAA contract. The court authorized
Northwest to reject the agreement, authorized the implementation of the
terms of the March 1 TA (with its larger wage cuts) as opposed to the
February 22 final offer, but stayed his decision for 14 days to give
additional time for "one last effort to reach a ratifiable agreement." The
court warned that "there can be no substantial delay," and that there
needed to be a "new agreement" that can be "promptly effectuated." The
court noted that the PFAA took the position that court authorization of
the February 22 terms as opposed to the March 1 terms would result in a
strike.

The court's decision included the following conclusions: (1) the amount of
the "ask" of the PFAA was "necessary," had been conceded by the PFAA,

and the PFAA "cannot repudiate its position," (2) there was "no substantial
evidence to counter the Debtors' showing that the business plan, with all
of its cost reductions, including the $ 195 million 'ask' to the flight
attendants, is 'necessary' within the meaning of § 1113(b)," (3) the
concessions required of PFAA were fair and equitable, including in relation
to management, (4) PFAA failed to submit an alternative proposal that
reached the $ 195 million target, and (5) the Debtors' business plan
supported the increase in its "ask" after the bankruptcy filing, the
proposed wage levels were not materially lower than those of United, and
United labor expenses were not appropriate for Northwest and would produce
lower profit margins and pretax margins that would "impede" Northwest "from
effectively accessing the capital markets and exiting Chapter 11."

Judge Gropper did not reach the question of a legality of a strike in his
decision. As previously reported Northwest and PFAA signed an agreement
several weeks ago, which was approved by Judge Gropper, establishing
certain requirements for any potential PFAA self help. PFAA agreed not to
call for or engage in any work stoppage or self help of any kind unless it
gives 15 days notice to Northwest that it intends to be relieved of this
restriction, and PFAA agreed not to give such a notice until Northwest
actually implements changes pursuant to Section 1113.

 
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I laugh because people in other industries say they don't care about aviation. I tell them to wait, what's happening here today makes NWA the poster child for companies of the future. Just wait till next year when the automotive companies start digging into the UAW contracts. Oh are they going to get the shaft like no other.
 
Sad day for labor!

The F/A's needs to inform NWA that they are outta there the minute the contract get imposed!
 
Dizel8 said:
The F/A's needs to inform NWA that they are outta there the minute the contract get imposed!

The FAs said they'd strike if Mgmt imposes.

Mgmt said a strike is illegal & they'd have an injunction served preventing a strike.

Meanwhile, the FAs are still voting on whether or not to change union representation.....results out in about a week. PFAA is in over their head, & is attempting to align itself with the Transit Workers Union......the one that represents the subway workers in NYC. :confused:

They don't even put the FUN in DYSFUNCTIONAL anymore.

320AV8R
 
I think that no matter what happens, the NWA FA's will be leaving in large numbers due to the crappy contract they will be forced to take.

Even the NWA pilot group has seen an unbelievable amount of pilots leave the ranks, with many moving into other careers.
 
A Northwest Jumpseater last weekend told us that NW has already trained replacement F/A's and management is actually WANTING the PFAA to walk out so they can bust their union like they did the mechanics... Have any of you Northwest guys heard this rumor?
 

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