Relax guys, I wasn't trying to start a fire. I just meant that when the other airlines like Comair and ASA and others are paying at least a little bit for training and paying a lot more for 1st yr FOs it makes me mad that the others cant follow suit. With a wife and daughter, I don't have a choice but to hold out for Comair or a company that pays something for training, and even then it will be REALLY hard to make it through training and first year. I know, maybe I'll be flying freight forever. I hope not. I didn't mean literally PFT, but with no paycheck for 2 months, it may as well be for me. I would seriously have to cook some tacos at night to get thruough that. Pinnacle does the same thing, but at least they pay better for 1st yr FO. ~19 an hour and flying really nice CRJs. I won't go there either, if I can help it. I know how hard all of us have worked and how much we've paid to get where we are. I would just like to see a little more respect for our abilities and efforts. I'll keep my opinions in check next time. Fly safe, Jeff