Great Lakes commuting from East Coast?

[labbats]

Holy crap!


TH 5143 DEN-LAR 1035 1120 45 46
TH 5144 LAR-DEN 1135 1218 43 44
TH 5181 DEN-LAR 1320 1405 45 46
TH 5181 LAR-WRL 1415 1517 102 102 18
TH 5174 WRL-LAR 1535 1637 102 102 10
TH 5174 LAR-DEN 1647 1730 43 44 115
TH 5027 DEN-AIA 1845 1940 55 55 10
TH 5027 AIA-CDR 1950 2016 26 29 621 0 628 0 1056 CDR 903

 

[Cardinal]

Ok, am I reading this right? 10 to 20 minute turnarounds?
And, what do the numbers after the times mean i.e. TH 5143 DEN-LAR 1035 1120 45 46

Block Time is :45 minutes, Credit Time (arcanely based on historical block "segment times," and what you'll actually get paid for, no matter what happens) is :46.

10-20 minute turns aren't an issue at the outstations, you just stay on the airplane, cross the seatbelts, load up your 3 passengers and blast off again. It's the :45 minute turns in Denver that kill you, when you need to eat lunch, drop a load, do the paperwork for the next leg, and hike a 1/4 mile back out to the airplane.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

Hey Vlad, did you get a job offer?

no, but that's where my app will go in a month or so

 

[Guitar Guy]

Holy crap!


TH 5143 DEN-LAR 1035 1120 45 46
TH 5144 LAR-DEN 1135 1218 43 44
TH 5181 DEN-LAR 1320 1405 45 46
TH 5181 LAR-WRL 1415 1517 102 102 18
TH 5174 WRL-LAR 1535 1637 102 102 10
TH 5174 LAR-DEN 1647 1730 43 44 115
TH 5027 DEN-AIA 1845 1940 55 55 10
TH 5027 AIA-CDR 1950 2016 26 29 621 0 628 0 1056 CDR 903

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That's not atypical or all that bad. For a 1035 departure, your duty starts at 0935 (unless they are back to 30-minute shows). And you are off duty 15 minutes, if I recall correctly at the end of the day. So that means a crewmember is on duty for a shade under 10 hours, assuming the 1-hour show at the beginning. Given that the contractual limit is 14 hours and the FAR limit is 16 hours, this day doesn't come close to the limits.

I guess you might be surprised by the number of legs, but given how short some of those are, the total block time for the day looks to be about 4 hours, 53 minutes. It can get a bit busy on those short legs, talking with ATC, getting ATIS/ASOS/AWOS, calling back times, making traffic calls and whatnot. What can also get a bit hectic is a day that long with limited breaks. The longest one on the day above is 1 hour, 45 minutes, which is long enough to relax and grab a bite to eat.

That said, throw some weather or traffic delays and some days you just got behind with little or no chance to catch up.

 

[crashpad]

insane in the membrane...INSANE IN THE BRAIN!!!!!

 

[BarbrPole2theOM]

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the total block time for the day looks to be about 4 hours, 53 minutes. QUOTE]

Actually it is about 6 hrs and 21 min. I actually like those days, keeps you busy and you don't have to spend all day sitting around getting tired and listening to the normal crew room talk.

 

[gt1900]

You guys think 15 to 20 minutes to turn a 1900 is hard.....Try turning a 717 or 737 in 30 minutes. That's what SWA and AAI do all day long. I remember bitching about only having 1 hr. to eat lunch during the day. Well, I just flew a 5 leg trip last Thurs. up and down the east coast and the longest sit was 43 min. No crew meals or anytime to get lunch. Thank god the Cpt. ran up and got us a sandwich to eat on the way to LGA. I would much rather stay busy and fly 7 hrs a day and get 15 to 18 days off then have 2 hr sits, fly 4 hrs a day, and only get 11 days off. While I'm at work, work me like a slave. Then let me go home and enjoy my time off!

 

[tattoo13]

Here you are..

I have been at lakes for 2 1/2 years...been a captian for about 1 1/2 years and I commuted from msp and now sea...Commuting sucks anyway you look at it..summer are the worst..last week is a great example...I had a 10:30am show in den...all flights from sea to den that morning way oversold...so I left sea at 11:59pm thursday night...flew suncountry to msp...arrived late and just made a 6:45am flight on united out of msp to den...I looked at all my options and that was the only way to get to work....Your QOL even at lakes is 100% better if you live in phx or den...cant stress that point enough....