Great Lakes Airlines

[Jack Schitt]

And from what you are saying, if it were that bad there, they, (NTSB-FAA) would have closed the place down long ago!?!?

They did! The FAA shut the place down in 1997. All aircraft grounded and all crews furloughed. Not exactly a stellar track record. I guess they can't get anyone else to fly to BFE.

 

[mnalpha]

from what i know Great Lakes is not going bankrupt anytime soon. As far as Saab is concerned, yea I think they make cars or something like that?

I have alot of good friends at Lakes and they are all great people, they have no idea what a auto throttle is, but they can hold airspeed with the best of the JR guys.

If I had to bet my house who could fly a step down in weather (by hand mind you), it would be on a lakes crew over a expressjet crew any day. And we all know thats true.

 

[tattoo13]

slaabpilot is obviously a retard....and he is another mans B%ch...that says it all.

 

[stillflyn]

Yep... It was the King Air's fault. The capt on the King Air had a very very low time pilot in the right seat. The King Air might have made a radio call but the g/a aircraft behind him blocked it. I'm reaching here it's been a long time since I've thought about it. Anyway the right of way belongs to the lowest aircraft landing. The 1900 crew made all the required calls. I don't think that they got any blame. This happened right before I was hired at Lakes.

 

[Guitar Guy]

They did! The FAA shut the place down in 1997. All aircraft grounded and all crews furloughed. Not exactly a stellar track record. I guess they can't get anyone else to fly to BFE.

That shutdown lasted two weeks and all crews were recalled. And you'll note that Lakes has only had one fatal accident in its history and in that wreck, the NTSB placed primary blame on another aircraft.

I still think it speaks volumes about Laker pilots that they have such a great track record given the airports they fly into. Jack - if you get the chance, check out TEX, GUC, HDN, COD, GJT and the other mountainous airports that Lakes flies or has flown into over its history. I think you'll have to admit that the crews have to be sharp flying into places like those.

 

[stillflyn]

The FAA didn't shut down Lakes in 97. GLA stopped all flying in order to inspect all their airplanes after they found out that a non qualified mech was working on an e120 with no supervision. Big difference.

 

[slaabpilot]

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!!!!!!!!

 

[Cornelius]

SLAABPILOT, why don't you drink a nice glass of shut the f$%k up. I worked at Lakes for 3 years and never had any serious issues with airplanes or operations.

 

[Superpilot92]

Whats the hiring status of Great Lakes? Are they hiring now or holding off for a bit?

 

[Propsync]

Hey slobpilot, you're right. Anyone who's flown a 340b and b+ and put it down on their 'experience list' has to be right all of the time. Well, wait, you didn't list the A model too. Maybe you don't know it all, tool. Guys who put nine million airplanes down on the 'experience list' must have some sort of complex. Now, before you get upset at me, I just want you to know your're better than me.

Lakers, for where you guys go with what you have to work with, you all seem to do a heck of a job.

BTW- slobber, does your 'wife' know about the other man yet? Um, yeah, riiight..

 

[Guitar Guy]

Whats the hiring status of Great Lakes? Are they hiring now or holding off for a bit?

Check their website. They had new-hire classes in November and December so they may not hire for awhile. Of course, Lakes' hiring is driven by hiring at larger places, so if there is a bit of an exodus from GLA, they'll have to hire again.

 

[flying4food]

Here is the NTSB short report!!

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

the failure of the pilots in the King Air A90 to effectively monitor the common traffic advisory frequency or to properly scan for traffic, resulting in their commencing a takeoff roll when the Beech 1900C (United Express flight 5925) was landing on an intersecting runway. Contributing to the cause of the accident was the Cherokee pilot's interrupted radio transmission, which led to the Beech 1900C pilot's misunderstanding of the transmission as an indication from the King Air that it would not take off until after flight 5925 had cleared the runway. Contributing to the severity of the accident and the loss of life were the lack of adequate aircraft rescue and firefighting services and the failure of the air stair door on the Beech 1900C to be opened. (NTSB Report AAR-97/04)

 

[slaabpilot]

Bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Crossky]

Interviewed with Great Mistakes June of 99'. Got an August class date, which was pushed back indefinetly by the end of july. Sept 11 came and went just like that class date. QUOTE]

avpro91, I know I'm being picky here (my wife says so too) but the Sept 11 that changed all our lives was in 2001, not 1999. You sure you interviewed in June of '99?

Lakes was a good opportunity for me, a career changer with 1300TT and 40ME, got on in Feb 2000 and never regretted it. It was a big jump and a lot to bite off, of course. CA IOE Jan 2001, was there just over two years, flying in the Rockies, more beautiful flying and better than slugging it out for years and years in the flatlands waiting to upgrade. Never was PFT, they paid hotel (double occupancy), but we weren't "employees" until IOE. Flew planes with a few MEL's of course but it wasn't a place where the planes were unsafe or you were pressured by the company to do unsafe things.

My opine on Quincy is the GLA crew had two pilots, the PNF (FO) should've checked (out the RH windows) that the king air was clear and holding in position, the PF (CA) could've delegated that to him. See and avoid right? Easy for both pilots to be focused on the runway and landing. Could've been the link in the chain that prevented the crash. Just a suggestion to file away for a 'rainy day'.

 

[propjockey]

If I'm not mistaken, the Quincy collision is the reason all Part 121 aircraft now have contrasting color stripes painted around the emergency exits to aid in distinguishing them from the rest of the fuselage.

 

[TS6M]

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[EMB170Pilot]

Great Lakes

or do you mean Great Mistake?

 

[propjockey]

Ha ha ha. So tired. Please give it a rest.

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Sorry

Cheap Shot



Not like my last 135 jobs were great either