Got Right to work in GER. Pilot employment guidance requested

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Spouse is german...
I've got GER language skills but not fluent or german aerospace language skills
FAA ATP 6k hours and CL-65 type...

Any insight on working in GER or the EU?

 

[MD80PILOT]

Conversion to JAR.

Unless you can fly a N-registered aircraft you need, just like here in the
US, a JAR license to fly an aircraft registered in the EU. In order to convert your FAA to a JAR license, check with one of the EU-JAR issuing countries. As of half a year ago. It was very difficult (almost impossible) to get this done due to the inability of the the EU/JAR and the US/FAA to see eye to eye on how to do this.
The JAR rules are more theoretical and have more tests. (I am not trying to even immply which system is better). However, there has been some progress over the last few months on this issue. I would recomend to talk to maybe LufthansaFlight Accademy as they do a lot of training of German students.

When I went through the process 5 years ago, it was prior to the implementation of the JAR and hence a little easier. Only 11 written tests two of them was the Morse code test and Plotting ( 1960's Navigator style navigation ).

Good luck.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

Converting to a JAA ATPL

Option 1



If you hold 1500hrs of which 500hrs is in FAR25 or FAR23 certified multi crew aircraft, of which you need 250hrs in any aircraft type as PIC or 100 PIC under supervision then you will need to:

Hold a medical class 1 JAA
Pass ALL 14 ATPL exams
Undertake training as recommended by a Approved schools Chief Ground Instructor (in other words you can do it quickly or over a long time, you have no requirement to sit through the 770 hr long course)
Undertake a type rating course at a JAA approved training provider
Complete a ATPL skills test with a United Kingdom CAA examiner





So in summary you can do it this way to get rid of the 770hr classroom requirement if you have the experience and do the type rating and flight test on a FAR25 or 23 type aircraft.



Option 2



If you hold 500 hrs multi crew experience on a FAR 25 /23 type, hold a type rating on that type, and will be doing your ATPL skills test on that type you are exempt from the Type rating course and doing any type of training for the ground examinations, you can simply just enter and sit them without any help, then go and do the skills test.



Option 3



Special terms for Pilots meeting the experience criteria below * have been agreed as an interim measure for the grant of the above licence until the Joint Aviation Authority have agreed appropriate new conversion terms.



*A minimum of 3,000 hours as pilot of public transport aircraft over 30,000 kgs MTOW on scheduled international or similar routes, a minimum of 1,500 hours of which must have been as Pilot-in-Command.



The restriction to fly UK registered aircraft only, may be removed when the final terms have been agreed, subject to any additional requirements being completed.



To apply for a written assessment you will require a ‘JAR-FCL 680 pack’. The form enclosed in this pack should be fully completed and returned to this office together with a fee of £77.00, your actual logbooks and your non-UK licence with the validating medical certificate. This form may be downloaded from the web in the near future.



Option 3 is rarely used.



Option 4



Now of course you may not have any of the above requirements, then you will need to complete a Ground school course, undertake the examinations, and then complete the Commercial Skills test and complete a 15hr conversion course for a Instrument rating following by the Instrument rating skills test.



All options require you to attain a Medical for the JAA licence.

FD

 

[Sunnfun]

You might also have a look at http://ppjn.com/jeurope.html

Gives you a very comprehensive look at the job situation, pay and minimum qualifications to apply. I hear the info on this website is very accurate and often updated.

edit: oh, and one more thing. If you hold the right to work in germany, this is then valid throughout europe, to include switzerland.

Hope this helps.

Tschüss!