Goofy Logbook Question

[Valhallabound]

I've got a seemingly odd question I hope someone can answer for me. I'm a rather low timed pilot who doesn't get much time to fly (too busy and as of late too married to make it out to the airfield). My logbook shows the usual put-puts 150, 152, 172. etc. and am waiting for spring to roll around so I can get some instruction in my dad's Mooney.

To get to my question. I was reading a thread on here and know full well and how stupid and idiotic it would be to pen in fligt time that really shouldn't be there. However, we had a nice day the other weekend and my old man and I flew for a while to get that proverbial "100 dollar hamburger". Being around airplanes for all 24 years of my life and despite low hours I soloed when I was 17 I flew the plane for 95% of the flight (from the right seat).

Now I know the FARs pertaining to logging time - ratings required, SIC time, etc. Not being an aircraft requiring a SIC time can't be logged as such, not having high performace instruction I can't log it at all really. But it was such a great and memorable flight I wanted to record it somehow so I wrote it in my logbook with an asterick beside the entrance and in the remarks I wrote "not official and not acceptable towards any furture rating or endorsement". Is this acceptable or will, god forbid, a friendly FAA official examining my log bust my ***...?

Thoughts/Comments?

 

[NoPax]

Private pilot, with single engine land rating, can log the flight as PIC, if you were the sole manipulator of the controls. Personally, I'd log it in the PIC column for 95% of the flight time, and put 100% of the flight time in the total time column, and in the remarks note - sole manipulator of the controls.

The regs require you to have the high performance (depends on the Mooney)and complex endorsements to act as PIC, not to log PIC. Your father was acting as PIC, you were flying, and can log it as PIC (sole manipulator).

Hope this helps


Oh, and if you ever get to fly something you aren't rated for, you can still log it, for memories sake - it is your logbook. An asterik or note in the remarks section to the effect of 'not to be counted towards certificates or ratings' is a good idea.

 

[Valhallabound]

Thanks, that helps alot indeed. I'll remember that for future reference!

I guess it's a complex aircraft, not high performace as I previosuly wrote, being an M20C it's less than 200HP.

 

[avbug]

It may have helped, but it's incorrect.

If you are rated in the airplane, you may log the time you spend as sole manipulator of the controls. If you have your private pilot certificate and hold category and class for Airplane (category) Single Engine Land (Class), you may log all the time you spend as sole manipulator of the controls as PIC.

You should not log part of the flight as PIC and part as total time...because the part that's not PIC isn't loggable.

You do not need a high performance or complex endorsement to log the time, as an endorsement is not a rating. You need to be rated in the airplane to log the time. You do not need to be endorsed to log the time. You need to be endorsed to act as PIC of the aircraft, but you weren't PIC. You can log PIC without being PIC...you can log the time as PIC because you were sole manipulator of the controls (in your regulations, 14 CFR 61.51(e) will cover that).

You suggested that being a small single engine airplane you can't log SIC...there are times when you can. If your father were flying the airplane under simulated instrument conditions and you were acting as safety pilot, with your father flying the airplane, then you would have had the option of logging SIC, because you would have been acting as a required crewmember under 91.109(b). If you had your complex endorsement and could act as PIC, then you could be the pilot in command while not touching the controls, acting as both safety pilot and PIC, and log the time as PIC...because you would be acting as PIC of an aircraft requireing more than one crewmember. Again, see 61.51(e).