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Good Week for AMR. DAL and Virgin, not so much.

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Mr.B

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First the JAL decision to stay with Oneworld, now this....



(Updates with comments from British Airways, American and Virgin.)

By Josh Mitchell and Kaveri Niththyananthan
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--The U.S. Department of Transportation Saturday approved an antitrust waiver that would allow AMR Corp.'s (AMR) American Airlines and British Airways PLC (BAIRY, BAY.LN) to cooperate on trans-Atlantic routes with conditions much less onerous than the last time it ruled on such a deal.

The ruling was immediately criticized by rival Virgin Atlantic Airways whose president Richard Branson described the draft conditions imposed by the DOT as "a complete joke" and urged the European Union to impose tougher ones to protect consumers.

American Airlines and British Airways welcomed the decision.

One key condition is that the alliance gives up four pairs of slots at London's Heathrow Airport, Oneworld's primary hub, where the availability of landing and takeoff slots is limited.

A previous alliance attempt in 2002 collapsed when regulators demanded 16 slot pairs--four times this total--be given up.

Slots at Heathrow are much prized. The airport is the world's busiest international airport measured by passengers and is highly congested.

Virgin's Branson said that following the deal American and British Airways would between them have 47% of the slots at London Heathrow.

The DOT said it granted antitrust immunity to members of the Oneworld alliance--American, British Airways, Iberia Airlines, Finnair and Royal Jordanian Airline. The approval carries certain conditions the airlines must meet "to protect consumers and preserve competition," the agency said in a statement.

If the decision becomes final after a public-comment period, the Oneworld airlines would be able to more closely coordinate international operations in trans-Atlantic markets.

In the DOT's ruling, regulators tentatively found that granting antitrust immunity to the Oneworld alliance would provide travelers and shippers with a variety of benefits, including lower fares on more routes, increased services, better schedules and reduced travel and connection times. The department also said the proposed alliance would enhance competition globally by creating a new competitor for the Star Alliance and the SkyTeam alliance, which have antitrust immunity.

The DOT, however, also noted that the Oneworld alliance could harm competition on select routes between the U.S. and London's Heathrow Airport, Oneworld's primary hub, where the availability of landing and takeoff slots is limited. As a condition of approval, the department proposed that the applicants make four pairs of slots available to competitors for new U.S.-Heathrow service.

Virgin's Branson said that the decision to force only four pairs of slots to be given up "is a complete joke and those responsible for this decision should hang their heads in shame."

The DOT also would require changes to the agreement to ensure capacity growth and require the carriers to submit traffic data and implement the proposed alliance within 18 months of a final decision.

The proposed tie-up has yet to get the green light in Europe and Branson said the European Union should "continue its more consumer focused approach when it takes its decision in the coming weeks."

-By Josh Mitchell and Kaveri Niththyananthan, Dow Jones Newswires, 202-862-6637; [email protected].
 
For this past week - yes a good one for AA. But talk to me after AA works out all their issues within their labor groups. The pilots are already against this and should the AA flight attendants try a walk out - you will be hard pressed to say AA is having a good day, week, month or year.
 
For this past week - yes a good one for AA. But talk to me after AA works out all their issues within their labor groups. The pilots are already against this and should the AA flight attendants try a walk out - you will be hard pressed to say AA is having a good day, week, month or year.

Be honest with you I really don't give a (bleep) about AMR...just posting some news.

If you haven't figured it out by now, employee groups don't really have a say in the matter.
 
Good for AMR exacs and shareholders, not for AMR pilots. APA is against it, it'll cost them jobs.

DAL will keep their Asian routes instead of giving them to japs. Bad for DAL exacs, good for DAL pilots.
 
I think DAL will have to order some new metal. Rumors are flying that some desert metal will be taking to the skies again.
 
APA 'says' the JBV will cost jobs. We'll see. AA isn't exactly burning up the world with "job security" as it is.

TC
 
I think DAL will have to order some new metal. Rumors are flying that some desert metal will be taking to the skies again.

Yep, but a lot of that may be in 2011.


I am sure that DAL will do everything it can to remind JAL what a mistake they made.

As for AMR/BA:
Good for them. It is one of the most saturated routes in the world.
 
I did hear last week everything in the desert (25? 757/767) are coming out this year. Some old 757's (21?) going away but a positive increase in airframes and higher utilization rates as the flying levels ramp up.
 
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I do not think that was stated Diesel. I beleive the report was for summer 2011.

Now if they opt to make the GUM deal 757, then maybe.....

They do want more international that previously stated so if they can find a way they will.

All points are pointing to new hires later in the year. This year looks good, but 2011 looks like it is shaping up to be a banner year.
 

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