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indianboy7 said:Ya, I think the media has absolutely no idea that airplanes have brakes too.....I heard "they hit the thrust reversers pretty hard" so many times the other night, I ended up puking.........who knows though....that coulda been the problem....imp:
I hear you hoss, not getting "pushed" is one of the reasons I like working where I work...It's definitely not for the SEL Turbine PIC time logging.TurboS7 said:Landing data two engines is based on no reverse, takeoff data the same. The only time reverse comes into play is landing with one engine, and stopping with a failure prior to V1. The bottom line is that MDW is way too short for Part 121 operations in any kind of severe or abnormal weather. The airport managers and airline officals are full of BS. The operate there because it is cheap, cheap, cheap and Chicago Airport Authority like the money. They push the airplanes and the pilots then fault the pilots because we are not perfect. This industry stinks, and the pilots are the ones that take the windfall......and we get paid too much....SURE>>.
TurboS7 said:Landing data two engines is based on no reverse, takeoff data the same. The only time reverse comes into play is landing with one engine, and stopping with a failure prior to V1.
14CFR 25.125(b)3
(3) Means other than wheel brakes may be used if that means—
(i) Is safe and reliable;
(ii) Is used so that consistent results can be expected in service; and
(iii) Is such that exceptional skill is not required to control the airplane.
14CFR 25.125(f)
(f) If any device is used that depends on the operation of any engine, and if the landing distance would be noticeably increased when a landing is made with that engine inoperative, the landing distance must be determined with that engine inoperative unless the use of compensating means will result in a landing distance not more than that with each engine operating.
(paragraph e is directional stability, exceptional skill, etc.)14CFR 25.109(f)
The effects of available reverse thrust—
(1) Shall not be included as an additional means of deceleration when determining the accelerate-stop distance on a dry runway; and
(2) May be included as an additional means of deceleration using recommended reverse thrust procedures when determining the accelerate-stop distance on a wet runway, provided the requirements of paragraph (e) of this section are met.
Rally said:Reversers or not should'nt the -700 be able to stop in that length of runway with that amount of snow UNLESS they were too fast or too long?