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bunnyfufu

aka wilywampa
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i'm looking for a book to read.... something that isn't just a non-fiction book about airplanes or whatever, but more like a book written by a pilot about his experiences flying.. for example, the experiences of a cropduster pilot, or a helicopter pilot, or a fighter pilot in vietnam or something. what are some good books like this?
 
Chickenhawk for helicopter pilot in Vietnam (barely fiction).
Wings to feed your aspirations to become an airline executive (fiction).
Flying the Line I and II and Hard Landing for appreciation of the management/labor relations over the years.
Jonathan Livingston Seagull when you want to get REALLY mellow and to get your eyes above the level of squabbling over a piece of fish.
Nuts to understand how Herb did it.
 
Fate is the Hunter by Ernest K. Gann is one of the best. A 1940's airline epic. It's my favorite.

Cannibal Queen by Stephen Coontz is a non-fiction acount of his travels across the country in a Stearman. A nice read
 
Books

God is My Copilot - Fighter pilot during WWII in China, flying P-40s and DC3s over "the hump"

Baa Baa Black Sheep - Autobiography of Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, WWII Marine Corps and Flying Tiger Ace.

Chickenhawk - Andy I thought that was non-fiction? Either way one of the best flying books I have read.

(not sure of the title) - Autobiography of Chuck Yeager

Anything by Earnie Gann - I really like the one already mentioned as well as his fictional work about a WWI fighter pilot.

Stephen Coonts - I love the one mentioned, as well as Flight of the Intruder and the following "Jake Grafton" novels.
 
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I'll second Fate is The Hunter - great read.

Just finished NorthStar over My Shoulder - Robert Buck. Brilliant.

In fact, Gann and Buck write similarly (I think) and were mates in the 40's to present day (if Gann is still with us?)

I have yet to read Stick and Rudder, but have only heard good things.
 
For Pilot's Eyes Only

This is sort of the memoirs of a Captain who flew over 40 years with Pan Am. Started out flying into Central America on the DC-3 and retired flying around the world on the 747. That's a lot of technology changes in the span of one career. Lot's of funny stories about all the crazy stuff he saw and experienced in his career. Only a couple thousand copies were published, but it is still available on Amazon.
 
I'm probably gonna get slammed for this but I didn't like "Fate is the Hunter". I couldn't get past the first 40 pages. It seemed a bit exagerated. I know it talks about the glory days of aviation and all but it was just a bit of overkill. Something like the phrase, "the captain walked with a certain swagger and everyone knew he was the greatest man alive, yes because he was a pilot", or "beads of sweat formed on his brow, the tension was high, blah blah blah." Those aren't direct quotes but almost. I've been flying for not too many years now and I don't know everything about flying but it just made me want to gag. Way too macho, way too glamorous about flying. What it made me think of was one guy telling his hangar flying stories, which as we all know are just a bit exagerated. Perhaps I'm wrong but I just couldn't get past the first few chapters.
 
Moondog

Must read book, answers all the questions you want about starting a career "Moondog Academy of the Air and other disasters" by Pete Fusco. Anyone who does not like "Fate is the Hunter" does not like the sound of round engines.
 
I'd be very interested in the autobiography of a certain cropduster-turned-fire tanker pilot :D
 
Oh yeah, Vipers in the Storm by Keith Rozenkrantz. Everyone rants and raves over it; I thought it was pretty good.
 
A great read is, Inside the Sky: A Meditation on Flight by William Langewiesche (son of Stick and Rudder author).

It is a gracefully written exploration of the significance of the human experience of flight. In it, he contemplates the philosophy of flight, the turn and spiral dive, wx flying, ATC, and provides a highly detailed accounting of the Everglades crash and resolution of Value Jet 592.

The author is also an award winning National Correspondent for the Atlantic Monthly and had a book on the NY Times Best Seller list last year about the clean-up efforts of the world Trade Center Towers called, American Ground, which is an excellent read as well.

A new book has recently come out about the dynamics of the relationship between the Wright bros and their family, and how this affected the development of the airplane.

It is called, To Conquer the Air: The Wright Brothers and the Great Race for Flight by James Tobin.

It is biographical and is not so much specifically on airplanes or flight, but how and why these two people worked together well, and the history behind the business end of dealings with Glenn Curtiss, the Smithsonian, Bell, et al. I haven’t read it yet, but I want to.
 
Hey avbug,

Gift of Wings, Illousions, Bridge Across Forever, Biplane, all by Richard Bach.

What is it about these books, or the author, that you like, and makes them a good read?
 
The frequent graphic references to some of the most vile acts ever committed between man and reptile are what I liked about them. But most folks seem to appreciate Richard Bach's ability to take the reader where he will.

Gift of Wings, I believe, was a collection of short stories, and accounts. It sums up some of his experiences as a military pilot, private civillian barnstorming pilot, and even his fantasy about drake, the air pirate. Illousions is a wonderful book about...nothing. It's the Forest Gump of flying.
 
The frequent graphic references to some of the most vile acts ever committed between man and reptile are what I liked about them.

Wow, avbug, I look for those qualities in the books I read, is it like reptiles co-habitating with man and procreating into some sort of new alien genetic strain? What kind of vile acts? (but don't give the whole plot away)
 
Procreation? No, this is more of a tale of two old women who teach an iguana to knit. It's the colors I was talking about.
 
It is hard to find good drama these days which involves women and iguanas, and also knitting as a psychological twist.

What was their sexual predilection?
 
Prediliction? That's one of those big words again. I get them on this site from time to time. If I can just find out what it means, I'll use it in a sentance to impress all my friends. Are there various predilictions? Sexual? Religious? Technical?

Or is it a lizard thing?

My last big word on here was pedantic, by A Squared. Pedantic, I think, means "wordy." Is it possible, therefore, to have a pedantic prediliction, or can I say that in mixed company on a public forum? It does sound rather embarassing, whatever it means.

The lizard thing is all physics. Rather newtonian. Iguana tell ya more, but frilly I can't. Asp, and ye shall receive, and all that.

Which is to say, I'm getting away from the intent of the thread, flying books. Perhaps one of the best, if your time is limited, is Freefa, by Jim Brooks. It's a story of a man who began skydiving with the intent of becoming a professional freefall photographer. Unfortunately his career effort was short lived, having suffered a fatal accident on his first skydive. You only get about 30 seconds into it, and the book ends.

What is is that drives us to read flying books, anyway? You don't see a mortician reading the latest offering by Stephen King while waiting for a viewing to start, or a vet reading James Herriot. Instead, in the real world, priests read child pornography, lawyers read Death of a Salesman (and his net worth and liabilities), and the masses study romeo and juliet by bill shakesburry (while downing cornflakes and cake donuts and beer). We're a twisted lot. We should be reading transcripts from documentaries by Jerry Springer, and keeping up with Time Magazine's pick for man of the year. But flying books?

If you're not looking for warmth and cheer, (I can't recommend it), try "The Day Rain Never Fell," by Martin Azimuth. It's an effort at combining nostalgic fictional aviation with history. It's the story of a man who rewrote history and the accounting of the Berlin Airlift, in which, instead of dropping food, candy, and supplies, he uses C-54's and C-46's to drop komodo dragons. The results are startling, but predictable. In the final chapters, a young girl hides away one of the dragons in her attic, feeding it scraps of newspaper and bubblegum, praying for it, and singing it songs of hope and love. She protects it from the masses, who are justifiably upset about receiving six foot lizards instead of boxes full of food dropped softly by parachutes.

In the adopted sequel, written by Bach, two old women who remember the great Berlin Komodo Drop, teach it to knit and sing for peanuts. The Komodo finally dies of malnutrition, as komodos can't eat peanuts, but not before making a final desperate bid at life by devouring the two old dour women in a display of predilictious wanton carnivouristic violence that leaves stories about war and love and lust to rot in the company of boorish cacaphony.

Or so it says on the dustjacket, anyway. I'll loan you my copy.
 
avbug,


Now you’ve done it!

You’ve ruined it for everyone!

Didn’t I ask you to not give away the whole story??

I think you do have a cacophonous predilection for pedantics, I have always suspected that you were one of those kinds.

One would think that you would have better things to do with your time, than prey on innocent book readers with your extreme pedantics!

Now, no one here will read this book, it is a complete and utter loss to the literary world of aviation.


How could you?? How could you do this to us?
 
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pilotyip said:
Must read book, answers all the questions you want about starting a career "Moondog Academy of the Air and other disasters" by Pete Fusco. Anyone who does not like "Fate is the Hunter" does not like the sound of round engines.
I second Yip on both choices.

Both books are remarkably similiar. They tell similar stories. Fate is extremely serious and formal, but I think that's a reflection of people from those times. If you don't know what I mean, consider that in the 1930s airline travel was extremely formal. Men wore suits and women wore gloves and hats for an airplane trip. Moondog is far less formal (actually, it is a scream and a riot!). It, too, is a reflection of its times and setting; I suspect that those who fly freight and clandestine cargo to the Bahamas and South America are far less formal than a starched 1930s AA captain.

Both books are very well written, by the way.

I also second both volumes of Flying the Line, and Hard Landing by Thomas Pettinger.
 
here are some of my favorite aviation related.
dont usually read aviation related cause i do fly all the time but here we go


Five Miles and A Thousan Feet by Bob Tatosian - Easy read, very fun 329 pages

Flight of Passage by Rinker Buck 351 page. Excellent

Night Flight by Anotoine De Saint-Exupery quick easy 128 page

Wind, Sand, and Stars by Antoine De Saint-Exupery 224 page excellent.

Fate is the Hunter by Ernest Gann cant remember...best one of them all
 
"I Could Never Be So Lucky, Again" - Jimmy Dolittle (How can you crash that many times?)
"Eagle" by R. Sterling (I only found this at the C.R. Smith Museum @ AA HDQ, great story on AA's development)
"The Greatest Generation" by Tom Brokaw (Start on page 163 with Margaret's Story)
"The Right Stuff" and "Yeager" (love it's refutation of "The Right Stuff!")
"North to the Orient" and "Spirit of St. Louis"
"Flight of Passage" was ok
"Daughter of the Air: The Brief Soaring Life of Cornelia Fort" (She was doing traffic patterns with a student when the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor. So much for that flight lesson!)

Fly SAFE!
Jedi Nein
 
I Must Fly by Johnny Moore, a DPE in northern California. A guy who has truly seen and done it all and lived to tell about it...surprisingly after you read some of the stuff he's done. Terrific book!
 
I’ll Take the High Road by Wolfgang Langewiesche, documents his start as a pilot, how he learned to fly and skydive, and his many adventures as a new pilot building skill and hours. This is his most entertaining book.

He also wrote, Flier's World, which is about his experiences flying abroad, as a test pilot, as well as the how to’s, why’s and wherefores of flight. This book was written after Stick and Rudder.

Also, Lightplane Flying by Wolfgang Langewiesche, written in 1939, before S&R, and is a rare book, hard to find, it details the simplicity of flight, and is a how-to for the student pilot. (I am looking for a second copy of this, myself).

Guy Murchie’s, Song of the Sky is a classic circa 1950, about his experiences, thoughts, regarding flight. Also loaded with air facts.
 
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Predilectory pedantics notwithstanding....

"Piece of Cake" by Derek Robinson - WW2 fighter pilots

"Goshawk Squadron" by Derek Robinson - WW1

"Three Cheers for Me" by Donald Jack. This is the first book in the infamous Bandy Papers series. Sex, gin, lizards, ladies, Huns and Dolphins.

"Letter to a Hostage" by Antoine de St-Exupery

"North Star Over My Shoulder" by Robert N. Buck

"Biplane" by Richard Bach, and most of his others. Don't bother with the ferret series.

"Fate is the Hunter" by Ernest K. Gann

"Bush Pilot With a Briefcase" by Grant McConachie - Canadian bush pilot turns maverick airline exec.

"Inside the Sky" by Wolfgang Langeweische

"West with the Night" by Beryl Markham. African flying, 1930s

"Southern Mail" by Antoine De St-Exupery

"Flight of the Gin Fizz"

"Song of the Sky" Guy Murchie. Hard to find as out of print, but worth the effort. Illustrated wonderfully by Murchie.

"Beyond the Blue Horizon" Alex Frater. Retracing the Clipper Route.

"Sagittarius Rising" by Cecil Day Lewis. WW1 pilot autobiography. Wonderful writing.
 
Wolfgang and other books

redd said:
I’ll Take the High Road by Wolfgang Langewiesche, documents his start as a pilot, how he learned to fly and skydive, and his many adventures as a new pilot building skill and hours. This is his most entertaining book.

He also wrote, Flier's World, which is about his experiences flying abroad, as a test pilot, as well as the how to’s, why’s and wherefores of flight. This book was written after Stick and Rudder.
Don't forget Stick and Rudder. A great explanation of aerodynamic forces, in plain English. Wolfgang comes out big on angle of attack.

Another good book is Make Better Landings by Alan Bramson. It's a great book that discusses how to land all airplanes, from piston to jet. Good discussion in the book about turbine controls. You'll enjoy it.
 
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