going from regionals to cargo

[flyinyourShorts]

I'm not going to type out the payscales, but if you check out Express.net on airlinepilotpay.com, it's about the same. Our garuntee is a little more, and that's minus per-diem and company bonuses also. Like alot of things here the payscale dosen't get posted outside company very much, but it's not bad for working only half the month.

If the new contract is EVER put in place, we're susposed to get a pay raise.

Also for stinkbug, there is a seniority list, and it's pretty well stuck to. Things like upgrades and overtime are based on it. Also you are home based(per the contract), and airline travel is provided to and from work. They won't buy a ticket from just any small airport(like El Dorado, AR), but chances are there is an airport near you that they can get tickets out of.

 

[flyinyourShorts]

Remember, it's pronounced El Doh RAY doh

Other places that have a special corner in my heart....

Kissimmee
Yipslanti
Columbus(LCK Airport Area)
Indy(go Postal!)
San Juan
Subic Bay
Ho Chi Minh City(Saigon)

Shouldn't you be studying anyway?!

 

[Rhoid]

I'm not going to type out the payscales

Why? are you embarrased about your payscales? I would be if I were you. Look how they compare to the two premier ACMI carriers, ABX and Astar. I don't think your pilots make anything near they do.

Also, I keep hearing of more consolidation in the heavy freight sector that BAX is in. Just look at what happened to Menlo and all those contractors who will be looking for work at the end of the year. I know of a former DC-9 captain at ABX that got fired to putting a DC-9 in the approach lights, he got hired directly into a 727 captains seat at CCI. What does that tell you? They aren't known in the industry as "Crappy" for nothing!

Good luck with your "career" at CCI. I guess for someone without a degree it's the best you can do.

 

[ERfly]

Why? are you embarrased about your payscales? I would be if I were you. Look how they compare to the two premier ACMI carriers, ABX and Astar. I don't think your pilots make anything near they do.

Also, I keep hearing of more consolidation in the heavy freight sector that BAX is in. Just look at what happened to Menlo and all those contractors who will be looking for work at the end of the year. I know of a former DC-9 captain at ABX that got fired to putting a DC-9 in the approach lights, he got hired directly into a 727 captains seat at CCI. What does that tell you? They aren't known in the industry as "Crappy" for nothing!

Good luck with your "career" at CCI. I guess for someone without a degree it's the best you can do.

Hemorrhoid makes his return...

 

[flyinyourShorts]

I think you need some Preparation-H.....

I think you are embarrised to come out and say who you really are oh mighty, all knowing, freight hemmroid!

You seem pretty convinced that ABX and DHL are screwed in the long run. Like any other ACMI operation for DHL, one day they might decided to pull the plug. Just wait until the hub consolidation.

You might think it's crappy, and your entitled to your opnion. But, as you "work toward the majors" remember to look up and see us "crappy" pilots flying over your head.

 

[Stinkbug]

Thanks again guys for all the info...

 

[kevdog]

Do you think the fine folks at flightinfo.com would give us rhoid's email address if we all chipped in a buck?

 

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

Do you think the fine folks at flightinfo.com would give us rhoid's email address if we all chipped in a buck?

I believe Rhoid isn't really at "The Academy" and an up-and-coming pilot. I believe he's already a line pilot who can't find anything else better to do than be a flame-baiter.

If you read anything related to ABX, this guy sure seems to know a lot about their operations - things only a line-pilot would generally know.

It's a pretty sad commentary about him, as a person, when his sole source of amusement is posting flame-bait...

HMM

 

[cforst513]

The schedule is 2 weeks on/2 weeks off. Basically it's the best schedule in the world. In response to Flagshipper's question, yes, it is worth it to move back to freight. You work half as hard and make more money. You only go to work 12 times a year (based on a 2 on/2 off schedule. You're only going to work once a month). So if you're a regional pilot commuting to/from work, you will spend alot of your time begging for a ride and fighting the airport crowd, dealing with TSA hassles, etc. This is your off time. Why waste it commuting? With a company such as Capital Cargo, you are home based. The company flies you commercially to and from your trip. They use Legacy Airlines. I've only been on AA, Delta, NorthWest and Continental. (Im sure they travel you on others as well, but I've only been on these 3).

Our main cities are TOL, BOS, SAN, FLL, PHX, ELP, GDL, YYC, HRL, CLT, AND MIA. Those are the airports you'll overnight in. Like t-gates said, you'll usually fly 4 legs a night. For instance Bos-Roc-TOL-Den-San. TOL is our HUB where the sort takes place. The intermediate cities (in the above example, Roc and Den, you don't even get off of the airplane.)

so 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, that means that you leave, fly around for 14 days, overnighting in cities other than your home, then you head home and spend 2 weeks at home? do you have a family? how does this type of schedule work with your spouse and trying to raise kids? sounds like a rediculous schedule for a bachelor

 

[kevdog]

I believe Rhoid isn't really at "The Academy" and an up-and-coming pilot. I believe he's already a line pilot who can't find anything else better to do than be a flame-baiter.

If you read anything related to ABX, this guy sure seems to know a lot about their operations - things only a line-pilot would generally know.

It's a pretty sad commentary about him, as a person, when his sole source of amusement is posting flame-bait...

HMM

i am pretty darn sure that rhoid is gay!

 

[Ligeirinho]

Is Capital Cargo hiring now?
If so what's the min requirements?
And what's the best way to send resume? Personaly?
Where are they located (headquarters)?
What are the bases?

 

[cargoflyr69]

someone in this post said you fly only 4 nights a week, is that right??? only work 8 days a month/96 a year??? sign me up! can you use jumpseat benefits to get home on the 3 days you are not working during your weekly rotation? Indeed it sounds like a sweet gig!

 

[kevdog]

someone in this post said you fly only 4 nights a week, is that right??? only work 8 days a month/96 a year??? sign me up! can you use jumpseat benefits to get home on the 3 days you are not working during your weekly rotation? Indeed it sounds like a sweet gig!

Yes, a lot of 121 cargo companies only fly 4 days a week, but sometime 5. The companies I've worked for can jumpseat with a limited amount of carriers. US Airways, Jetblue, AirTran, ATA, Spirit and a few more usually allow jumpseaters for cargo companies.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

You might think it's crappy, and your entitled to your opnion. But, as you "work toward the majors" remember to look up and see us "crappy" pilots flying over your head.

Go get 'em shorts!!
Unfortunately, Roid will not be able to see us above him, because we fly at night when it's dark .

 

[Midnight Flyer]

Is Capital Cargo hiring now?
If so what's the min requirements?
And what's the best way to send resume? Personaly?
Where are they located (headquarters)?
What are the bases?

Yes, we're hiring now. Classes are usually very small, as we hire for what we presently need as opposed to what we think we will need in the future. Basically, that leads to no sitting around reserve because there are too many crews.

No real published mins. People have gotten hired with 1500 hours, but also I've seen guys hired with 6000-8000 hours and one guy recently with over 10,000 hours.

Best way to send in a resume is just mail it traditionally. They do look at them believe it or not. Like most airlines, they don't like walk in visits. A letter of recommendation from somebody who flies for them will help very much. You should know the person well because sometimes they ask questions regarding how you know the person, etc...

Company headquartered in Orlando. www.capitalcargo.com Check out the website. They're moving offices this month, right down the road. I don't even know the address and am not sure if the website will reflect the new address right away. The new headquarters is supposed to be very nice, with a cutaway cockpit of an actual 727 mounted up on the ceiling.

What are our bases you ask? If you mean bases as far as where you're based as a pilot, it's wherever you live; you're home based. The airline purchases tickets to and from work for you. Our base (HUB) for BAX Global (our customer) is in Toledo, Ohio. All of your flying will pretty much be centered around TOL. The cities we fly to are SAN, DEN, PHX, STL, MCI, YYC, MCI, TOL, MEM, MIA, CLT, ELP, BNA, FLL, BOS & ROC. For instance, if your trip for the month is the SAN-BOS run, they'll commercial you to SAN. You'll fly SAN-DEN-TOL-ROC-BOS. You will sit in TOL for a few hours for the sort and probably change planes.

good luck to you

So 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, that means that you leave, fly around for 14 days, overnighting in cities other than your home, then you head home and spend 2 weeks at home? do you have a family? how does this type of schedule work with your spouse and trying to raise kids? sounds like a rediculous schedule for a bachelor

Yes, 2 on/2 off means you'll leave, fly half the month (which includes overnighting in cities that you don't live in), then go home after your trip. I picked this job for this schedule. It works out perfectly. Yes, I do have a family, and I'm typically home more than my neighbor who's a Delta pilot. It works wonderfully for my spouse and I raising our children. It's really not a rediculous schedule; just think about it, you have time off each month to do things you want to do, like vacations. With this business of 4 days on/2 day's off that the regionals have, once you get home, you might as well leave your bags packed 'cause you're leaving in a day. If you're low seniority with a regional, you don't get a choice of when you want to be off. Sure, you can bid, but that doesnt mean you'll get what you bid. Here at Capital, I've gotten my 2nd or 3rd line choice since I got hired here, and I've not missed Christmas, Thanksgiving, family members birthdays, nothing. I only go to work 12 times a year, 4 nights a week. If qol and being off is importatant to you, this is the place to be & we would love to have ya

someone in this post said you fly only 4 nights a week, is that right??? only work 8 days a month/96 a year??? sign me up! can you use jumpseat benefits to get home on the 3 days you are not working during your weekly rotation? Indeed it sounds like a sweet gig!

Yes, only 4 nights a week for us. Most freight does not operate weekends and fridays. Of course they're are exceptions. Fed Ex day trips and I've seen them flying on the weekends sometimes.
So, if you happen live at the city where your trips overnight in, you will be home practically every day of the month and only actually work 8 days a month. We have a first officer who lives in FLL and he bids that trip every month, so he's home every night. What a deal (only if you get along with your wife I guess)
To answer your j/s question, yes, you can jumpseat home on your weekend days, but the way it is now, it's next to impossible. The flights are all full, and certain airlines enforce the j/s agreement. For instance, if we're not on AA's j/s list, there's no way you're getting on that flight. Prior 911, we could go on just about any 121 carrier by just showing them our 121 ID card. Just be careful if you j/s home because you may not get back and you're fired if you miss a trip.