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Metro752 said:
airplanes rule, wiping old butts drools

I've heard that before but If you haven't been $h!t on in aviation you haven't been there long enough! I'm still going to take my chances as a RN and as soon as I can get into a CRNA program I'm there. I'd rather wipe a few @$$'s for a couple of years and come out making six figures, and be able to get a job anytime, anywhere. Just remember this post in a few years when you see that REALLY pretty Stearman or T-6 taxi up on the ramp and some guy jumps out in a pair of scrubs, that'll be me!
 
GoingHot said:
The one on the low end of the pay scale makes $83k for three 12-hour days each week. It's 6 in the evening to 6 in the morning, but she gets four days (in a row) off.

Are you serious? That's a great schedule. Most office types are doing 5 X 12 hours per week. The whole RN gig sounds good after reading this thread. Male nurse? Who cares. The whole gender issue with work these days means little. Imagine if as a single guy, the airline world was topsy-turvy with 99.5% females and only 0.5% male... it'd be heaven for a hetero guy.

Ignoring the female/male issue, though, it still sounds like a great gig. Specializing, like becoming a N. Anesth. would help keep you away from the rectal stuff.
 
bell47 said:
I'm getting out of aviation, as an occupation. I'm going back to school for a job in the medical field, i.e. nursing school. I'm guess I'm just tired of employers in aviation thinking they own you. I've been a pilot and A&P for the last ten years and everywhere I've worked was exactly the same old story. Has anyone else on this board just gotten totally fed up with the aviation industry? Don't get me wrong I still like airplanes, but I'm going to make it a hobby again, not an occupation.


LOL......You'll be back!

Yes, you'll be back......hehehhahahhohoho
 
Gatorman said:
LOL......You'll be back!

Yes, you'll be back......hehehhahahhohoho

Aviation is a rich mans hobby and a poor mans job. No I won't be back unless it's my own plane.
 
I had a friend with the same disgruntled attitude..he spent 3 years in an office selling aviation insurance in MSP...could not stand it...he is now a checkairman for netjets on the citation X...you'll be back!
 
bell47 said:
Aviation is a rich mans hobby and a poor mans job. No I won't be back unless it's my own plane.



hahah...you'll be back


:bawling:
 
CaptainMark said:
I had a friend with the same disgruntled attitude..he spent 3 years in an office selling aviation insurance in MSP...could not stand it...he is now a checkairman for netjets on the citation X...you'll be back!


....just like this guy!!!
 
CaptainMark said:
I had a friend with the same disgruntled attitude..he spent 3 years in an office selling aviation insurance in MSP...could not stand it...he is now a checkairman for netjets on the citation X...you'll be back!
Yup, I'll definately be back, IN MY OWN PLANE! lol. Why would I want to stay in a profession that caused me one divorce, and kept me broke for the past ten years. Like I said I still like airplanes, but if I can get the knowledge to make a living(a GOOD one at that) and have my own plane to fly when I want to, where I want to, and with who I want, why would I do it for low pay and the chance to be treated like a piece of crap. I'm glad your friend is happy at NJ's but I've worked in an emergency clinic years ago and it was a blast. I think I'll be happy.
 
Thought about it

I was down in San Antonio last week on my first free days and days off in about a month. I was down at the FSDO trying to upgrade my CFI rating to the "Gold Seal". The pencil pusher at the FSDO did not know what it entailed and after dissapearing in the back for 15 minutes or so he came out with a bunch of printed pages about the rating.

He said it is very complex and there is no one around today but himself and he just got called out on something important, could I come back at 2 o'clock. I know he just had a bunch of errands to run and needed to take a 2 hour lunch to accomplish them. I was told of a pilot shop to kill some time at.

The pilot shop was a few blocks away. When I pulled up to the shop there was a white T-shirt in the window. I could read only read the top, it said "I AM WITH the FAA." I assume most here knows what the bottom line said. I envisioned coming back after his 2 hour lunch to see me wearing my brand new t-shirt saying "I AM WITH the FAA and I AM HERE to HELP"

While driving back to the FSDO, after lunch, I passed SAT San Antonio International I saw a row of huge tractor lawnmowers, at the edge of the field . I was instantly inspired by the opportunity of a better life. Driving one of these I could allude to being the aviation industry while drinking in a bar, have a cush goverment job, make more money, better benefits, be home every night, and have a better QOL. How many years of training would I need to pilot one of these beasts.

Unfortunatley I still want to be a pilot when I grow up, so I went back to the FSDO, where my original FSDO employee was still at lunch. Fortunately another FSDO guy that knew what he was doing was able to find my paperwork and 20 minutes later I was a Gold Seal Flight Instructor.

Give up on aviation just after I this huge step up in prestige. I may even be able to make 5 figures this year.
 
bell47 said:
Yup, I'll definately be back, IN MY OWN PLANE! lol. Why would I want to stay in a profession that caused me one divorce, and kept me broke for the past ten years. Like I said I still like airplanes, but if I can get the knowledge to make a living(a GOOD one at that) and have my own plane to fly when I want to, where I want to, and with who I want, why would I do it for low pay and the chance to be treated like a piece of crap. I'm glad your friend is happy at NJ's but I've worked in an emergency clinic years ago and it was a blast. I think I'll be happy.

in any case..good luck to you..
 
Good luck. This industry is hard to leave after it gets in your blood. I understand what your saying about the pay and lack of stability. From what I've seen lately, most nurses are better looking than the flight attendants these days. Good luck.
 
GoingHot said:
I hear the same kind of b!tching from my three sisters, who are all nurses...talk about how many nurses are leaving the profession...The pay is decent...big shortage of nurses...


Any curiosity as to why this might be the case?



Good Luck, Bell47. Hope it is everything you think it is.
 
There is no shortage of qualified nurses just not enough that are willing to stay in that occuapation. Must say something.
 
My wife is a nurse. She's been doing it now for about 5 years. The first half of that was spent wiping geriatric butts, this last half has been in pre-op. Let's just say that the grass is always greener on the other side. It's nice that she can get a job wherever we go, with relative ease, but the pay isn't as great as everyone makes it out to be. Here are my "insights" into the nursing profession...

Pay. I don't know where all of you get your info, but for a regular 4-year degreed RN, it still isn't that great. Livable, definitely, but not the greatest. Right now my wife is making the most she's ever made, roughly $50K, working in downtown PHX. She could make quite a bit more if she entered the nursing pool, but that provides no benefits, and with me finishing up ratings right now, we need those benefits. So if you can get by without the bennies, the pay can be good. If not, it's livable at best (if you have a family). Specialties will obviously pay more, but how much more is the question. I think my wife would love to be a CRNA, but that involves more school, which won't work with my current income ($0).

Management. The hospitals are businesses, and as such their goal is to improve the bottom line. My wife's boss consistently sends people home early in order to comply with managements wishes for lower costs. My wife's last paycheck was for 69 hours over a two week period, during which there were no holidays. Her normal shift would be 80 hours over two weeks. She can't even get full-time hours because her boss keeps sending everyone home early. This last week she's been fighting to stay for as long as possible so she can help out our bottom line. This was also the case at her first hospital. I don't quite understand hospital management - they'll send home a full-time nurse who makes $28 an hour, but have no problem paying a travel nurse almost $50 an hour to do the job of the LPN who, if she was full-time, would be making about $20 an hour. I know I don't have all of the cost breakdowns to look at, but they sure would be interesting to see.

Anyway, Bell47, good luck on the career change.
 
Dude, you will always be a slave to management if you are an employee.

I wish you luck, but I fear you are making the wrong choice, for the wrong reasons.

do yourself a favor and read the book "Rich Dad Poor Dad"

do it! it might change your path.
 
satpak77 said:
amazing how everyone on the board knows your exact personal situation isn't it

I agree. A piece of advice is kinda like a butthole, everyone's got one! LOL Like I said I'm not going to quit flying, I love airplanes. I'm just changing professions to make it a hobby again. I have thought about going to nursing school for the past ten years, ever since I worked in a Emergency clinic and loved it. It has always been something that I was interested in. My mother, grandmother and sister are all nurses, this field is not foreign to me at all. Anyway, keep the advice coming I will listen to all opinions, and options. Thanks, bell47
 

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