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Timebuilder

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In a press conference, Geragos, Michael Jackson's attorney, has threatened to put ExtraJet out of business. Apparently, he wangled an order to quarantine the aircraft until it can be "inspected" by his team.

Further, he threatened to come down on anyone "like a hammer, like a ton of bricks" who "besmirches the reputation" of Jackson.

What a tool.
 
Gotta disagree with you here, TB. As much as I don't like MJ, ExtraJet is way out of line here. They "have no idea" who put cameras in their airplane, but they are willing to sell the tape which fell into their laps??? C'mon! That is just plain wrong...sleazy, shady, and dishonest. They deserve whatever Geragos can rain down on them.
 
No, that isn't what they deserve.

They should have a hearing scheduled, and a judge should decide what sanctions, if any, could be brought against the individual who decided to do this. An investigation can determine who should be sanctioned.

This has nothing to do with putting the company out of business, which is an idiotic threat. To do so puts the rest of the mechanics, pilots, and office personnell out of a job, when it is not Mr. Geragos' position or responsibility to do so.
 
Bad Business

Sounds to me like ExtraJet is shooting themselves in the foot. The reason people like MJ charter aircraft is for privacy. Now they have to worry about privacy on a private jet? Don't think that's very good for business, especially if you carry a lot of celebrity types. How about "Private jets uncensored" on the E channel?
 
If there is a contact that describes the level of privacy that the customer can reasonably expect, and that contract has been violated, then there is a cause for action in court. I have never heard of a company being put out of business for a contract violation such as this, if such a contract does exist with a component of privacy.

I think you only have to worry about your privacy if you are a world famous child molester. Did you read the deposition of the previous 13 year old boy?
 
Is this Xtrajet in SMO? Who is Extrajet?
 
Nevermind, found the answer...it IS the operator I expected, Xtrajet.
 
Timebuilder said:


I think you only have to worry about your privacy if you are a world famous child molester. Did you read the deposition of the previous 13 year old boy?

What ever happenned to INNOCENT 'til proven GUILTY!
 
They are referring to Xtrajet out of SMO. It sounds to me that Xtrajet was trying to get themselves a little free publicity (advertising?) and it backfired in a big way. Even if there is no privacy contract, with their name being thrown around in the media with these allegations, not many will want to charter aircraft from them. They are a shady outfit to say the least. Perhaps some of the employee's don't deserve to lose their jobs over this....but I dont feel any sympathy for the owner. I am surprised they have been in operation this long.:eek:
 
here is the CNN article...


Lawyer says he, Jackson secretly taped on plane
Source: Police raids targeted private detective, videographer
Tuesday, November 25, 2003 Posted: 7:02 PM EST (0002 GMT)





LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Mark Geragos, singer Michael Jackson's lawyer, said Tuesday that a charter airline company secretly videotaped conversations between him and Jackson on board a plane and attempted to shop the tapes to media outlets.

Geragos said he and Jackson were recorded while flying between Las Vegas, Nevada, and Santa Barbara, California, where the singer surrendered to authorities on suspicion of child molestation Thursday.

Geragos said his legal team obtained a restraining order from a court in Los Angeles that prohibits XtraJet, the airline that he said placed the cameras aboard the plane, from disseminating tapes of the conversations.

"We've also filed suit ... against the airline company, and we reserve the right to file suit against anyone and everyone who is remotely connected with what I think is one of the most outrageous acts that I've ever seen in my 20 years of practicing criminal law," Geragos told reporters in Los Angeles.

"Michael Jackson is not going to be abused. Michael Jackson is not going to be slammed, is not going to be a pinata for every person who has financial motives," Geragos said.

Addressing the child molestation allegations against Jackson, Geragos said, "If anybody doesn't think ... that the true motivation of these charges ... is anything but money and the seeking of money, then they're living in their own Neverland," referring to Jackson's ranch.

A man who answered XtraJet's reservation line said the company had "no comment to make at this time." The Los Angeles Times quoted an XtraJet official as saying, "We explored the opportunity as any business person would."

Meanwhile, detectives with the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department have searched the Beverly Hills office of a private detective hired by Jackson, as well as the home of Jackson's videographer, CNN has learned.

The sources who disclosed the locations of the raids would not discuss what evidence might have been seized. The raids were carried out after officers raided Jackson's Neverland ranch November 18.

Sheriff's Department officials said November 18 that two additional locations had been searched but at the time did not say where those locations were.

Jackson was arrested and booked on suspicion of child molestation last week and was released after posting a $3 million bond.

Formal charges will not be filed before mid-December, a source close to the investigation told CNN.

Jackson is scheduled to be arraigned January 9 in Santa Barbara Superior Court. A single count of child molestation can carry a prison sentence of up to eight years. (Full story)

Jackson has denied the allegations. The singer launched a Web site Monday dedicated to countering what he called "a big lie" -- the child molestation allegations. (Full story)

Jackson's accuser participated in a documentary about the pop star, a source close to the child's family told CNN. The boy and Jackson appear in the documentary holding hands through much of the interview, which caused a stir when it was broadcast in February.

Investigators also have begun checking almost 70 calls from people claiming to have information about the investigation.

"Those calls need to be screened, and we haven't been able to substantiate all of them as actual tips," a law enforcement source told CNN. "Hopefully, they will be screened, check out thoroughly, and we will take it from there. Of course you have to figure some may be nuts."

The source said that documents in the Jackson case that can be released to the public are likely to be posted on a department Web site, even though the department is having trouble keeping up with the Web traffic the case has generated.

The source said the department's Web servers were shut down by heavy traffic after Jackson turned himself in to the department and was booked.

The department posted Jackson's booking photo on its Web site and soon had counted millions of hits. The site crashed, and the photo had to be moved to a server dedicated to visitors trying to see the photo.

"It received more than 1 million hits in the first two hours when the booking photos were posted," the source said. "It was just too much for the system. We've never had anything like this. That's why we had to move to another server."
 
What ever happenned to INNOCENT 'til proven GUILTY!

That is a matter for the court to decide.

As for folks like us, the general public, we have testimony right from Mr. Jackson describing his penchant for sleeping with young boys in the same bed. This is, at the VERY least, "inappropriate". Now, add to that the deposition of the 13 year old boy whose parents were bought off a decade ago. This shows both a desire for young boys and a pattern of behavior, along with sworn testimony that describes acts that are clearly illegal between any adult and a minor.

I call this the "court of common sense", or the "smell test".

Only someone who is as objectively odd as Jackson, in the midst of this investigation that covers this familiar and disgusting ground could expect such an invasion of "privacy" as this taping. Even Geragos would not be so foolinsh as to engage in an "attorney - client meeting" on a jet with others nearby, so there is no expectation of privacy for the legal purpose.

It will be interesting to see how this turns out. That much is certain.
 
Say what you want about MJ, and most of it likely is even true, but ExtraJet is TOTALLY in the wrong.

ExtraJet TAPED MJ via hidden camera on a jet he chartered and then ExtraJet shopped the tape around to media outlets. This is a violation of local and federal laws and I can't blame MJ for prosecuting this to the full extent of the law.
 
ExtraJet is TOTALLY in the wrong.

Do you mean Extrajet, or do you mean one or two individuals at Extrajet? If the offender is the owner, then I agree that he represents his company. As of yet, we don't know who is the offender, other than the one particular passenger. :D
 
Griz said:
Anyone wanna take any bets to see if XtraJet is still in business 1 year from today? Folks that charter private jets expect privacy. Not only that, they've got a good memory.

Dittos Griz. Geragos doesn't have the ability to shut them down, although he might sue them and win a judgment that would break them. Their customers will shun them because this breach of privacy. Even if the company was not involved in making the tape. It doesn't matter to the people who have the cash to rent large corporate aircraft who made the tape, only that a tape was made.

My guess is that this charter operator will change names and attempt to continue in business. You never know, it worked for ValueTran.

regards,
enigma
 
Good point.

In fact, the company might not own the aircraft, and the owner could get his plane released, the company files a new business name, and the plane goes on the certificate again under the new name.

I'm sure there is much that we do not know about this.
 
People who own/fly in private jets do so b/c of the privacy and the ability to conduct business that is not meant to be public knowledge. How nervous are these people now, wondering if their aircraft have spy cams/mics recording their business. Extrajet was completely unprofessional concerning this and there will be repercussions <sp?> in the private jet business. Of all the bigwigs/celebs that fly privately, there will at least be a handful that will mention something about spycams on the aircraft to the owners or pilots before their next flight. Industrial espionage is a serious deal. Extrajet will be out of business quickly if they don't find the guy who put the camera in their aircraft and deal with the situation. Would you fly in an aircraft that may be taping you (CVR do not count!)?
 
That company is going to get sued big-time. I won't matter if they win or lose. If I were a corporate or private client, I wouldn't give my business to a company who has a track record of invasion of privacy, then trying to profit by peddling the spoils. The aircrew will be lucky if they don't get legally fragged by this as well.
 
That reminds me of the fat chick who recorded her conversations with Monica Lewinsky. Aptly portrayed by John Goodman on SNL. What was her name again?
 

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