General Dynamics Flight Dept- Any Info

[S13]

Hi,

My first post to this web site. I was wonderining if anyone had any info on General Dynamics Flight Dept in Washington DC? Pay, QOL etc. Also what is G200 payscale like??

Thanks in advance

 

[VVJM265]

Bump?

Hi,

My first post to this web site. I was wonderining if anyone had any info on General Dynamics Flight Dept in Washington DC? Pay, QOL etc. Also what is G200 payscale like??

Thanks in advance

 

[matchthehatch]

I busted my arse to get an interview when they had a recent opening. I also talked to one of their pilots this week when I was in IAD...

QOL is great. No weekends, no holidays, and very few RON's. I assume the pay is at least IA, if not better (at least on the G200). Anyone hired before 01/01/07 is grandfathered into the GD pension plan. Anyone hired after is eligible to be enrolled in their 401K plan, which sounds much better than most plans.

They recently moved a G200 from BED to their new facility in IAD at Dulles Jet Center. The facility is supposed to be very nice and state of the art. Only one of 3 (?) pilots came with. They had two openings, one for a chief pilot (I believe they hire a "CP" for every a/c), and one for a "Flight Captain". Unfortunately for me, they hired both. I understand the "Flight Captain" is a young local guy who flew Beechjets for some crappy 135 operator. I've heard he's a good guy, so at least it didn't go to a dooshbag (misspelling intentional).

If I hear of any more openings, I'll let you know (right after I get hired). There's supposed to be one of those winking smiley faces after that comment, but I can't get it to post.

 

[Choppy]

Just sort of funny how they are always looking for pilots or maybe it just seems that way. They could have a good reason for it I just don't know any info first hand but they are always on the jobs board.

 

[matchthehatch]

Just sort of funny how they are always looking for pilots or maybe it just seems that way. They could have a good reason for it I just don't know any info first hand but they are always on the jobs board.

When Gulfstream is looking for demo pilots or for parts delivery pilots (I forget the acronym), they also advertise on the GD web site. Perhaps you are seeing those?

 

[GVFlyer]

GD is has a good flight department with great leadership. Pay is average. The defined benefit pension plan was compensatory. It's elimination will signal a decline in real compensation.

When job hunting, finding a company with a defined benefit pension plan is worth an additional $25-$35k per annum. Only 24% of companies in the private sector offer such pension plans.

Among your alternatives for a steady stream of income at retirement are to ladder bonds or buy an annuity with whatever's in your 401K. Work with the numbers and see how much you'd have to have in your 401K to equal the $93,750 retired pay the average 25 year Gulfstream Flight Ops pilot gets. The GD pilots get slightly less as their ending pension plan is not as good as the former Gulfstream pension plan (Gulfstream went to the GD plan 3 years ago but currently employed pilots were grandfathered.).


GV