G650

[ultrarunner]

Yeah, LOI's are relatively cheap. There are 20 or so 550's on the market. I would think 25 to 35 mil for a 550 no sweat in this market.

 

[Tgaug6300]

I bet a few will go and bake on the ramp in Dubai. When they get tried of trashing the interior anfading the exterior they'll get new ones.

 

[gutshotdraw]

The airplane won't even certify until the end of 2011 with deliveries in 2012. If things are still this bad in 2012, we have bigger things to worry about than whether Gulfstream is selling jets and for how much. Like people in the streets with pitchforks and torches.

 

[AA717driver]

There WILL be jobs on Gulfstreams out there. Just think "expat". Maybe a trickle here in the U.S.

TC

 

[semperfido]

The sky isn't falling anymore. The economy is normalizing. They will sell many 650's.

 

[fob727]

The sky isn't falling anymore. The economy is normalizing. They will sell many 650's.

Unemployment above 10%, no jobs in our industry...no jobs anywhere for that matter. No offense Sarge, but what do you call normal?:beer:

 

[semperfido]

Unemployment above 10%, no jobs in our industry...no jobs anywhere for that matter. No offense Sarge, but what do you call normal?:beer:

First, there are many people still working. Second, employment numbers are a lagging indicator. It is getting better, it may not get to the inflated levels we were at before the crisis, but the numbers will show improvement.

 

[gulfstreameric]

If the airplane (G650) flies before year's end, the LOI must be met with a Non Refundable USD 10 Mil deposit of the 200 LOI's. Gulfstream's parent GD, will for sure want to have that money before Dec. 31st. So I'll bet ya they work like crazy to get that testbed a/c in the air before the end of the year.
200 LOI Owners will be frantically wiring money to Savannah.
If on the other hand Gulfstream can't make the 31st deadline, the 200 Owners of LOI are looking at getting better prices, penalty payout and new slot allocation from the production floor.

See what Christmas will bring ....

 

[Gulfstream 200]

First, there are many people still working. Second, employment numbers are a lagging indicator. It is getting better, it may not get to the inflated levels we were at before the crisis, but the numbers will show improvement.

Actually, most indicators, including Blue Book, show airplane prices continuing to fall through early 2010 at very least. Many airframes down over 50% from 24 months ago.

The possibility of financial collapse may have passed (or was never there IMO) but corporate aviation is still deep in the tank, and not improving.....Yet. The only winners are buyers with nothing to sell. I dont think we will ever see levels of a few years back.

I will say that unemployment seems more area specific. I dont know any corp pilots in my area currently unemployed. Even ones who have lost their jobs have found something within a month or two.

And thats good...

 

[2EASYPilot]

First flight was supposed to be today. Not sure if it flew or not.

 

[ww2flyer]

The next payment is not on first flight BUT on FAA certification which is extimated to be 2Q 2011.

 

[Valkyrie]

First Flight

Only 12 minutes, too bad! I hope the landing-gear door issue will be fixed very fast.
http://www.gulfstream.com/news/releases/2009/112509.htm

 

[gutshotdraw]

The performance numbers on this airplane are just SICK. 2012 Collier Trophy winner. Guaranteed.

 

[pdkaviator]

I was departing HXD around that time and the controller pointed out 2 Gulfstream at my 10 and about 2 miles. Thought it was neat to see them both in formation but did not think much else of it. After they were handed of to SAV twr the controller came back and told me that I had just witnessed the 650's maiden flight. Thought that was pretty cool.

 

[semperfido]

Yeah- a pic would have been Facebook worthy

 

[gulfstreameric]

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/25/335489/video.html

first flight video

 

[jonjuan]

The performance numbers on this airplane are just SICK. 2012 Collier Trophy winner. Guaranteed.

What other aircraft is supposed to be certified in 2012? It may be a win by default.

 

[gutshotdraw]

What other aircraft is supposed to be certified in 2012? It may be a win by default.

The 787? Maybe? Or the Hawker 4000. Naw, guess they finally got it.


And as I understand it, the trophy is for the greatest technological advance in aviation for that year. Not just new airframes.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Yes...the "Commercial Aviation Safety Team" won it last year, and "ADS-B" the year before.

woo-hoo!!!

 

[jonjuan]

The 787? Maybe? Or the Hawker 4000. Naw, guess they finally got it.


And as I understand it, the trophy is for the greatest technological advance in aviation for that year. Not just new airframes.

I would think an all-composite aircraft (787, LR85, Legacy 500) would certainly qualify as the greatest technological advance in aviation.