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gordon24 said:
Sorry, but, I gotta say it: F#$K all you Delta pricks. Screw you and your "I won't forget this, yada, yada." I was at Comair and I don't remember being asked about the Delta furloughees working there. I also don't remember being asked to vote on it. If that were the case, I would've said to bring 'em over, plenty of room for everyone. But, since that was a MANAGEMENT decision, I didn't get a chance to voice my opinion. Instead, I got to deal with the evil eye from every Delta prick I ran into. I split and left for a corporate gig. Now, I plan on giving the finger to everyone of you di#$heads I pass. F#$k all you a-holes!
Wow. Maybe comair was right. It looks like having Delta and comair pilots in the same cockpit WOULD be a safety hazzard. Thanks for enforcing that notion.

NYR aka "Delta prick".;)
 
gordon24 said:
Sorry, but, I gotta say it. Screw all you Delta pricks. I was at Comair and I don't remember ever being asked to vote on bringing Delta guys on. The policy was in place when I got there. If it was up to me, I would've said, "Bring 'em over, plenty of room for everyone". Believe it or not, most of the other pilots agreed. Instead, I had to put up with evil stares and rude comments from you immature Delta jerks (except when you were on the jumpseat--funny how your attitudes changed). Well, I left Comair for a corporate gig. Now I intend to give you losers the finger every time I see one of you.
Would you mind if I used your post on another forum? I am trying to make a point to a few people and your post would help me out (allthough I liked the first one better). I won't do it unless you say it's ok.

NYR
 
Probable reality of the situation

When Delta hires again,


There will be something set up for ASA pilots who wish to come to Delta. It should reflect their vocal willingness to help out our 1310 furloughed pilots.

There will be no policy against hiring comair pilots who wish to come to Delta. They will be treated like all other pilots. A lot will depend on the interviewers, some may be former furloughed pilots, others will be former comair pilots. It won't hurt to be a comair pilot, it just won't help.

NYR
JMHO
 
gordon24 said:
Sorry, but, I gotta say it. Screw all you Delta pricks.
Right back at ya Gordo!

I was at Comair and I don't remember ever being asked to vote on bringing Delta guys on.
I see that Comair's hiring practice have little to be desired to hire scum like you!

The policy was in place when I got there. If it was up to me, I would've said, "Bring 'em over, plenty of room for everyone". Believe it or not, most of the other pilots agreed.
Well then they should have made their voice known to their MEC!

Instead, I had to put up with evil stares and rude comments from you immature Delta jerks (except when you were on the jumpseat--funny how your attitudes changed). Well, I left Comair for a corporate gig.
Translation:
Busted checkride and got fired on recurrent. Couldn't get hired when the hiring boom was going on and is now pissed at the entire industry!

Now I intend to give you losers the finger every time I see one of you.
I'm sorry! I didn't know that was you working at the Mc Donalds drive through. Next time I'll say "supersize that order, PLEASE!"

Its people like you that give the business a bad name!
And by the way. GOOD RIDDANCE!
737
 
NYRANGERS said:
Would you mind if I used your post on another forum? I am trying to make a point to a few people and your post would help me out (allthough I liked the first one better). I won't do it unless you say it's ok.

NYR
Gordo24

I guess telling me to go F..K myself in a private message was a yes? You allready told all 8000 Delta pilots to f..k ourselves on your last post. I must be special to get one in a PM.

NYR:D
 
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When Delta starts hiring again?! Yeah, I'm hurt. First you have to swim past all the rats jumping ship with their pensions.
 
I read the Comair MEC's Resolution and here's what I think's going on.

It would seem to me that over the past several months(maybe longer), the MEC's of Delta, Comair and ASA have been keeping in touch with regards to the current situation at Delta and the Connection Carriers. I believe that this may be the dawn of a new era of cooperation between the aforementioned organizations.

Regardless of the past transgressions (real or imagined) of any of these groups towards one another, it may be time to let bygones be bygones.

The Comair MEC Resolution mentions that a partial reason for this reversal of opinion is a result of the Delta MEC pursuing Brand Scope. If Brand Scope is handled appropriately, it could be beneficial for all three groups.

Now before everyone attacks me as Spinmeister AT, I fly for ASA so I have no dog in the Comair/Delta pilot argument. I also have it on good authority that our MEC did discuss some current relevant issues with the Delta MEC and ASA management were absolutely mortified that we were even talking to each other on a peer to peer basis. That's exactly where we want 'em in our situation.
 
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Comrcap,


I just read on the Dalpa web site that good ole Dean Bloom (the DL System Chief Pilot) mentioned the possible need for new hires after this early retirement deal is over and the planned 12-15% growth (rolling hub, faster turn times, etc...) of mainline. This was, of course, contingent on our giving up 30-35% pay etc.... Sounds like a large carrot, but it could happen if a lot of Captains bail out. He mentioned it, not one of our pilots. But hey, you Comair guys don't care--you are the next Major!



Gordo24,

You sound like a major dumba$$.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
chperplt,


That is the attitude of MOST Comair guys on this board.....


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
General,

I don't think that's the attitude at all. I think you DL guys do your best to antagonize the hell out of the comair guys and visa versa.

I really do understand where you guys are coming from.. I don't think you guys have a clue where we're coming from though. There is a happy medium somewhere between our interests. It's not an all or nothing situation and it's about time people realize that.
 
gordon24 said:
I was at Comair and I don't remember ever being asked to vote on bringing Delta guys on. The policy was in place when I got there. If it was up to me, I would've said, "Bring 'em over, plenty of room for everyone". Believe it or not, most of the other pilots agreed.
If that was the general consensus among the CMR pilot group there should have been pressure from the pilots to the MEC to have them try to implement new policy. Those people on your MEC are elected officials, if you don't like what they are doing and want to change it, get involved. Don't just satnd idly by and get pissed. It's YOUR union, not just 5 dudes on the MEC.

And don't give me any of that "Management makes the final desicion" BS, if your MEC tried at all from day one, they could have pulled it off before 3 friggin' years.

It's been said once and I'll say it again, too little, too late....
 
Again, for what it is worth, the Delta MEC chose not to spend negotiating capitol to pressure Delta management to tell DCI to make CMR management hire your furloughed pilots without restrictions.

You chose not to do this to the glee of Delta and DCI management to make sure that the whipsaw is alive and well, and they succeded above and beyond their wildest expetations.

Of course you have seen the results over the last three years with the hate and discontent between the two pilot groups on public and private boards.
 
My opinion of Comair and what goes on there is based on friends that I have there that went there before 911. I'm a former Army pilot and like it or not a lot of our guys went to Comair/ASA (or insert any other regional name) to build what ever time they lacked. When this whole hiring of furloughee's nutroll started I called a bunch of friend there and the overwhelming reply that I received was that most of the pilots did not agree with JCL (Comair MEC) said, however noone was saying anything to the contrary. When I asked why the answer I was given was that it's a no lose situation. If called on the carpet they could say they didn't have a vote if not it really didn't matter. So this conversation lead into the RJDC mess and the same answer was given. If the RJDC wins you get to fly bigger airplanes, if the RJDC loses (and you didn't sign the paper) then you can deny ever supporting it. No lose right. Well here is my opinion, and mine only. ASA supported us during the dark times of trying to find employment. It may have only been a token gesture as only about two dozen DAL pilots were hired. Comair chose to go the opposite direction and say that it could lead to CRM problems and that Comair pilots had no interest in ever moving to DAL. Good for you stick to your guns. I for one will be very much involved in the hiring process at DAL when/if it ever starts again. I was very involved before getting Army pilots hired. I can assure you that I will be very active in getting ASA pilots hired and I will do everything within my limited power to get Comair pilots off the seniority list.

B-727 Freight Dawg
 

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