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GerryG

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Just when I think they can't go any lower:

To each Flight Options pilot:

Most of you are aware of the Pilot Records Improvement Act of 1996 (“PRIA”). We regularly receive questions about what information we are required by PRIA to provide to potential employers when a current or former Flight Options pilot is being considered for employment by another air carrier. These questions are especially appropriate now because the Department of Transportation through the FAA revised its guidance in November 2007 (see http://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/pria/).

PRIA was enacted to help ensure that air carriers and air operators under 14 CFR part 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, adequately investigate a pilot’s background before allowing that pilot to conduct commercial air carrier flights. Under PRIA, a hiring employer cannot place a pilot into service until it obtains detailed records of the last five years of the pilot’s background and other safety-related records from a pilot applicant’s former employer(s). In response to these mandated inquiries from potential employers, we have been required to provide certain records regarding the pilot’s employment at Flight Options such as training and checking records, drug and alcohol test records, and disciplinary records that related to a pilot’s performance as a pilot.

THE DOT-FAA ADVISORY CIRCULAR (AC) 120-68D

The November 2007 AC provides a significantly expanded interpretation of a carrier’s duty to provide records according to PRIA requests from a prospective employer. In addition to the records we have provided in the past, we are now compelled to comply with section 2-3.d., that is, Records Concerning Disciplinary Actions: “...Your previous employer <Flight Options> must report all disciplinary actions, including those that do not involve your performance as a pilot, if they played any role in your termination or release from employment.” (The italicized words in the previous sentence are italicized in the Advisory Circular.)

WHAT DOES THIS DOT-FAA CLARIFICATION MEAN TO ME?

This change will not affect the vast majority of our flight crewmembers. For the small number of pilots whose employment was terminated, or who resigned in lieu of termination or to avoid involuntary termination, the new Advisory Circular requirements may result in the provision of additional information regarding the pilot’s disciplinary record that may not have been previously given. This will provide a prospective employer with a fuller picture of the pilot applicant’s employment history.

Best regards,

Bob
 
Just when I think they can't go any lower:

To each Flight Options pilot:
WHAT DOES THIS DOT-FAA CLARIFICATION MEAN TO ME?

This will provide a prospective employer with a fuller picture of the pilot applicant’s employment history.

Best regards,

Bob

Jeez, what's with this company?? Is that legal, I don't think it is....

Reading between the lines "we're short on pilots, if you leave, you'll be screwing us. Expect to be screwed back on your way out. Eye for an eye"

Companies like this one don't deserve a two week notice....
 
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Companies like this one don't deserve a two week notice....

At least one of our pilots (and I suspect more than one) trying to do the "right thing" by giving two weeks notice, got screwed for his effort. On the first day of his tour he provided the company the customary 2 weeks notice. The company not only terminated him immediately, but made it retroactive 7 days prior - his off days - and took those days as vacation so they didn't have to pay him.

When the time is right my last day at FlOps will be the day I go home from my last rotation.
 
When the time is right my last day at FlOps will be the day I go home from my last rotation.

I don't blame you. Its clear this company has 0 loyalty to you guys, so why not.....

I've had several conversations with some of you guys at the PBI Crowne Plaza. I've heard some prety good stories, how they've managed to keep pilots is beyond me.

Good luck, you're going to need it with those people.
 
At least one guy I know of, flew a repo leg, had enough and just got himself a rental car and drove home. Can't see nothing wrong with that.

Any other good quitting stories or ideas?

I also heard a guy was forced into the Beechjunk and got the type, flew one leg and then quit...could be the same person from above...I am not sure.

Do you think if you just Fed Ex your blackberry and stuff in a box full of cow manure they would get the idea? I can't imagine you would have to bother typing up a letter to go with it...although they are kind of slow.
 
I did not turn anything in when I quit. I asked for a Fed Ex number to ship the stuff back and never got one. Anyone need a used blackberry???
 
Incredible Incompetence

Just when I think they can't go any lower:

To each Flight Options pilot:

Most of you are aware of the Pilot Records Improvement Act of 1996 (“PRIA”). We regularly receive questions about what information we are required by PRIA to provide to potential employers when a current or former Flight Options pilot is being considered for employment by another air carrier. These questions are especially appropriate now because the Department of Transportation through the FAA revised its guidance in November 2007 (see http://www.faa.gov/pilots/lic_cert/pria/).

PRIA was enacted to help ensure that air carriers and air operators under 14 CFR part 121 and 135, or a hiring air operator under 14 CFR part 125, adequately investigate a pilot’s background before allowing that pilot to conduct commercial air carrier flights. Under PRIA, a hiring employer cannot place a pilot into service until it obtains detailed records of the last five years of the pilot’s background and other safety-related records from a pilot applicant’s former employer(s). In response to these mandated inquiries from potential employers, we have been required to provide certain records regarding the pilot’s employment at Flight Options such as training and checking records, drug and alcohol test records, and disciplinary records that related to a pilot’s performance as a pilot.

THE DOT-FAA ADVISORY CIRCULAR (AC) 120-68D

The November 2007 AC provides a significantly expanded interpretation of a carrier’s duty to provide records according to PRIA requests from a prospective employer. In addition to the records we have provided in the past, we are now compelled to comply with section 2-3.d., that is, Records Concerning Disciplinary Actions: “...Your previous employer <Flight Options> must report all disciplinary actions, including those that do not involve your performance as a pilot, if they played any role in your termination or release from employment.” (The italicized words in the previous sentence are italicized in the Advisory Circular.)

WHAT DOES THIS DOT-FAA CLARIFICATION MEAN TO ME?

This change will not affect the vast majority of our flight crewmembers. For the small number of pilots whose employment was terminated, or who resigned in lieu of termination or to avoid involuntary termination, the new Advisory Circular requirements may result in the provision of additional information regarding the pilot’s disciplinary record that may not have been previously given. This will provide a prospective employer with a fuller picture of the pilot applicant’s employment history.

Best regards,

Bob

For those of you that are not familiar with the management players at Floptions let me enlighten you about "Bob", "Bob/B19".

The Butt Monkey that sent out this threatening insult of a message to our pilots in none other the Bob Tyler, VP of Operations. Bob has had a history anti union work and of these types of messages at Floptions dating back to 2005 when he came to the company.

A little history on Babbling Bob that you might find interesting. Bob is a Eastern SCAB. He helped Lorenzo to destroy Eastern but ensured his pay out when the airline failed. He sold his fellow pilots down the river for his own gain. He was successful at defeating union organization at Jet Aviation while there as VPO. Once a SCAB always SCAB. He has spread FUD, distortions and out right untruths his entire time at Floptions. All the while using his slick, used car salesmen personality and skills to sell himself a one of us, a good old boy from the south, looking out for our best interest. What a crock of bullsh!t.

This latest Babbling Bob message has no other mission then an attempt to instill fear in the weak sisters among us. We are finally getting managements attention and the cost of not being serious about concluding contract negotiations is starting to have a high price. As that price goes up so will managements desire to quicken the pace of negotiations.

Don't allow this POS SCAB to intimidate you or dissuade you from our goals. We are winning this fight, management knows it and this email is just another underhanded ploy from our Corrupt Third World Management.
 
Thanks Bob...you SCAB!!

Aviation is a very small world indeed my friend. See ya around. :cool:
 
Interesting tactic from FLOPS management. A management with a long and colorful history of losing lawsuits to former pilots.

Goodluck guys! This really is low.
 

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