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Passengers wait for a United Airlines flight this year on DIA's Concourse B, where United now will consolidate all of its flights. United will give up six gates on Concourse A, freeing them for use by Denver-based Frontier.
High-fives at DIA
Deal on use of gates opens path to growth for Frontier, United

By Chris Walsh, Rocky Mountain News
May 24, 2006

Denver International Airport announced an agreement Tuesday that clears the way for its two largest carriers to grow here for the foreseeable future.

The deal essentially involves consolidating all of United Airlines' flights to the B concourse, thereby allowing Frontier Airlines to lease six more gates on the A concourse. DIA also will expand United's regional jet facility and retire some of the carrier's debt.

The agreement is good news for consumers because it could help keep a lid on fares and spur the addition of new flights and destinations.

It also puts to rest concerns that gate issues could stifle growth and helps solidify the presence of United, DIA's dominant carrier, and Frontier, its second-largest airline.

Combined, the two airlines account for more than 77 percent of DIA's passenger traffic.

"This is the same strategy we've been operating on for three years, which is trying to keep a robust, competitive environment at DIA," said John Huggins, economic development director of Denver. "It's especially good for leisure and business travelers."

Under the agreement, United will give up its six gates on Concourse A, where it currently operates flights of its discount arm, Ted. United will move those flights to five gates on the B concourse, where the airline is installing bridges that allow passengers to load and unload from the back and front doors of an airplane. The bridges help United speed up the process and allow the carrier to handle more flights daily.

United, which operates most of its flights on the B concourse, will give up one Concourse A gate in July, another in November and its remaining four by next spring.

In exchange for relinquishing the gates, DIA will pay for a $41.5 million upgrade and expansion of United's regional jet facility on the east end of Concourse B. It's a scaled down version of the expansion DIA and United planned - and then shelved - in 2003.

The airport also will pay off $110 million in debt related to United's automated baggage system, lowering the carrier's operating costs at the airport. The money used to retire the debt will come from the airport's revenue stream.

Last year, DIA agreed to retire $184 million in debt tied to the baggage system, which never worked properly and eventually was shut down. In return, United agreed to route more passengers through Denver.

Aside from the financial benefits for United, the move will pay dividends for the company's customers, who currently have to switch concourses if they are making a connection from a Ted flight to a main or regional United flight, or vice versa.

"All of our operations and equipment will be in the same terminal now," said United spokesman Brandon Borrman. "That's a big advantage for our customers."

United also estimated that it will add about 125 daily flights systemwide after the change.

Frontier, too, will grow, as it will lease the six gates on Concourse A, where all of its flights at DIA are based.

The Denver-based carrier said it can increase efficiency on its existing flights and will have enough space to comfortably add service for years to come. Frontier, which plans to bring on 14 new planes during the next five years, had run out of space on the A concourse and previously indicated it could grow elsewhere if it couldn't get more gates at DIA.

"This agreement is a mile high sigh of relief," said Frontier spokesman Andrew Hudson. "It guarantees Denver as Frontier's hub for the long term. It provides for our growth both in terms of destinations and frequencies and also will lead to improved efficiency of our Denver operation."

The deal is cheaper for DIA than the likely alternative: an expansion of the A concourse. That project would have cost about $116 million, airport officials say. Expanding the concourse also would have taken longer.

"This is great for everybody involved," said Cheryl Cohen-Vader, chief deputy director of the airport. "United gets the regional jet facility. Frontier gets the gates they need and wanted really badly - and in a shorter amount of time than the alternative. And a lot more planes will be flying in and out of the airport."

Details of the agreement

United will vacate its six gates on Concourse A, where it operates flights of its discount arm, Ted. Those operations will be consolidated to five Concourse B gates, where United is installing bridges that allow passengers to load and unload from the back and front doors of an airplane.

Frontier, during the next year, will take over the six gates on Concourse A, where all of its flights at DIA are based.

DIA will spend $41.5 million to upgrade and expand United's regional jet facility on the east end of Concourse B. The new facility will have 12 more gates for regional jets and six fewer for turboprop operations, where passengers walk onto the tarmac to board planes.

The airport also will pay off, in annual increments, $110 million in debt related to United's failed automated baggage system. The move will lower United's costs by about $10 million a year.

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And,FWIW, this is from another industry watcher on the yahoo message board:

" Continental didn't move because of United. The airport was 100 days late in opening and Continental didn't want to pay for a facility they weren't using. That's why United floated bonds for $100 Million for the $1 Mil. per day
delay in DIA's opening. That's also why the Airport is letting United off the hook for the automated bagage system. The Contracting of the baggage system was Pena's idea even after United told them they had am operating design for an automated system working at O'Hare tat still is working even right today. The new agreement is good because now it gives BOTH airlines the wings they need to make DIA some REAL Money what with $4-6.00 per head in PFC's don't you think?? "
 
That has to be good news for Frontier. I am sure they are excited about that. Any thoughts on how this may affect SWA in DEN? Any rumor about SWA getting more gates in concourse C?
 
SB Diver said:
That has to be good news for Frontier. I am sure they are excited about that. Any thoughts on how this may affect SWA in DEN? Any rumor about SWA getting more gates in concourse C?

The ability to grow our hub is great for Frontier.

I don't know about SWA's future growth plans in DEN, but doubt that this will effect them substantially.
 
Just...

Just interveiwed at good old SWA & the HR guy said that things in DEN are going way better than expected. He said they plan to grow like crazy from now til next year and beyond. (At that point in his speach, I lost bladder control and had to be excused cuz my orange suit was discoloring)

An interviewee asked all 3 interviewers if SWA is going after F9 or UAL. Surprisingly, all 3 answered his question. They are going after the UAL market. How could they hurt those cute animals that talk. If they hurt F9 too bad the DEN tree huggers would revolt against them and they wouldn't be liked in Denver. So, it is in their best interest to be nice to F9. Everyone in Denver loves the animals.

If I were a big proud SWA pilot I would want to hang out with the goat.

SluggO
 
effect, affect whatever
 
sluggo said:
An interviewee asked all 3 interviewers if SWA is going after F9 or UAL. Surprisingly, all 3 answered his question. They are going after the UAL market.

You will hear many opinions from interviewers, ACPs, etc. No one really knows the plan but senior management and schedule planning.

...But the plan is flexible and may change due to market conditions or other factors.

I think whoever has a high CASM will be ones to suffer from SWA competition. F9 does not suffer from high CASM like UAL and, thus, is not the low hanging fruit.
 
FlyBoeingJets said:
You will hear many opinions from interviewers, ACPs, etc. No one really knows the plan but senior management and schedule planning.

...But the plan is flexible and may change due to market conditions or other factors.

I think whoever has a high CASM will be ones to suffer from SWA competition. F9 does not suffer from high CASM like UAL and, thus, is not the low hanging fruit.
Check your fruit tree. UAL CASM 8.03 for 1Q. Frontier CASM 9.06 for 1Q.
 
LOL that was funny 32LT10. I enjoy your posts.
 
32LT10 said:
Check your fruit tree. UAL CASM 8.03 for 1Q. Frontier CASM 9.06 for 1Q.

32LT10, your fruit tree needs a little look at too. Though your stats are accurate they are not the same stats.

First your 8.03 CASM for 1Q UAL is EX Fuel. With fuel its 11.42

your 9.06 for FRNT is the FY 2006 CASM WITH fuel. Ex Fuel its 6.21.

Lower your fruit buddy.
 
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