Frontier Secures Buyer for 4 Airbus Aircraft

[starchkr]

NOOooooooo....NOT GRIZZ!!!

He's one of the funiest of all the birds...oh wait, i guess i've been watching too many of our commercials again.

 

[Shrek]

Champion

Add a third of Sun Country as well - I wish it was an April Fools Day joke.......sry guys.

 

[vtwo]

3 airplanes is an "airline"?

IT Is if you pay your bills with that airline. It is if you bought ticket for your family on that Airline.

Your an A$$!
I hope nice things happen to you too. They will in do time. muwahhh ha ha

 

[Bavarian Chef]

IT Is if you pay your bills with that airline. It is if you bought ticket for your family on that Airline.

Your an A$$!
I hope nice things happen to you too. They will in do time. muwahhh ha ha

Whoa there, killer. I thought I read that they only had 3 (another poster said 16). It was just a question, not a hateful remark like you take it.

To be honest with you, I never heard of Champion until I read the piece about going under. I am willing to bet I am not alone.

We are in agreement -- I hope nice things happen to me too.

 

[vtwo]

Ok My bad, Sorry just having one of those days.

I just hate to see people who work so hard. loose their income because those in charge can't do their jobs.

 

[starchkr]

Never heard of Champion?!?!?! HUH??? Their 72's are everywhere. Oh well, i guess you cant be "everywhere" all at once.

 

[www.]

Some on WS are seeing Frontier with Jet Blue next.

Frontier..under capitalized and getting hit with high fuel prices. Jet Blue has capital BUT also getting hit with high fuel.

Winners if they go under...CAL, USAir and LUV.

 

[USMC319]

Jet Blue has capital BUT also getting hit with high fuel.
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Wow. Had to reread that to see if I was missing something. So, jetBlue has capital but because they are paying high fuel prices they will be in line for "the next bankruptcy and liquidation"? BTW, in relative comparison, F9 is on par with most other airlines in terms of cash and ratios, and jetBlue is even better on that basis.

High fuel is hurting all airlines including SWA. SWA has the cash to offset fuel by playing the futures game in terms of fuel hedging, but they have not been making money in the business of flying passengers for quite some time. In any case fuel is not hurting Frontier or jetBlue worse than any of the others. Or if you would like it stated differently, fuel IS hurting all airlines equally.

Keep in mind that the airlines that have ceased operations in the past few days have had as little as single digit $mm unristricted cash at the time. Both the airlines that you predict to be next have hundreds of millions in unrestricted cash and equity at this time.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Jet Blue has capital BUT also getting hit with high fuel.
quote]
Wow. Had to reread that to see if I was missing something. So, jetBlue has capital but because they are paying high fuel prices they will be in line for "the next bankruptcy and liquidation"? BTW, in relative comparison, F9 is on par with most other airlines in terms of cash and ratios, and jetBlue is even better on that basis.

High fuel is hurting all airlines including SWA. SWA has the cash to offset fuel by playing the futures game in terms of fuel hedging, but they have not been making money in the business of flying passengers for quite some time. In any case fuel is not hurting Frontier or jetBlue worse than any of the others. Or if you would like it stated differently, fuel IS hurting all airlines equally.

Keep in mind that the airlines that have ceased operations in the past few days have had as little as single digit $mm unristricted cash at the time. Both the airlines that you predict to be next have hundreds of millions in unrestricted cash and equity at this time.

JB only has 190 mil in cash as of the last qtr.

 

[USMC319]

JB only has 190 mil in cash as of the last qtr.

I thought the Germans gave them a cash infussion of around $300mm+. I believe Lufthansa invested something like 19% in an equity investment in the form of cash. I'm not absolutely sure about the terms and conditions though.