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mesaba2425

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Pilots sue Mesaba Airlines alleging 401(k) mishandling
By KARREN MILLS AP Business Writer
The Associated Press - 12/31/2003
MINNEAPOLIS


Mesaba Airlines pilots filed a lawsuit Wednesday alleging that the carrier withheld money from their paychecks that was earmarked for their 401(k) plans, but kept the money rather than depositing it into the retirement accounts.

In documents filed in U.S. District Court in Minneapolis, the pilots also allege Mesaba failed to make all of the matching contributions required under the plan, made other contributions outside of the legal time limits, and failed to promptly rectify the errors dating back to at least 1996.

Mesaba's failure to identify and promptly fix the irregularities constitutes a breach of its fiduciary duties, the lawsuit alleges.

The money missing from the retirement accounts amounts to "hundreds of thousands of dollars," said Kris Pierson, a Mesaba pilot and spokesman for the pilots' union. Mesaba has not disclosed to the Air Line Pilots Association the exact amount of the money that was withheld, Pierson said.

The retirement money in question was not money from the pilots' regular payroll checks, he said. Instead, it was money shown deducted when manual checks were cut for extra work not included in the regular payroll checks.

"Mesaba knew or should have known" of its errors, the lawsuit says, since federal law requires the carrier to engage an independent qualified public accountant to audit the plan and publish an annual report of the plan that includes a financial statement of the plan's assets and liabilities.

"Mesaba Airlines regrets the errors that occurred in certain employees' 401(k) accounts, and we have disclosed these errors to the IRS and the Department of Labor," said John Spanjers, president and chief operating officer.

"We also have communicated to all employees the nature of the errors and our plan for both correcting them and preventing their recurrence. We believe this lawsuit is unnecessary given our commitment to correcting the errors," Spanjers said.

The union said it learned of the funding shortfalls in late September. The union said it initially believed the problem could be resolved without litigation.

"Management has flatly refused to disclose even the government filings related to this matter. Without any supporting data, our pilots cannot be assured that a full remedy will be provided," Pierson said.

"Moreover, we have reason to believe the funding shortfalls affect most of Mesaba's pilots, and many other Mesaba employees. In some cases, pilots are owed several thousand dollars," Pierson said.

He said Mesaba had promised to pay at least some of the money owed by Nov. 30, but missed the deadline.

Spanjers, however, questioned the timing of the lawsuit, which comes as contract talks between Mesaba and its pilots are at an impasse and time winds down to an 11:01 p.m. Jan. 9 strike deadline. The main issue, according to ALPA, is retirement benefits. The union says Mesaba pilots retire with 25 percent to 30 percent less in their retirement accounts than pilots at similar regional airlines. Pilots are further disadvantaged by the contribution irregularities, ALPA said.

Half of Mesaba's 844 pilots earn less than $32,500, with starting pay less than $17,000.

Mesaba operates as a regional partner of Northwest Airlines, providing more than 600 daily flights for Northwest between smaller cities and Northwest's hubs in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Detroit and Memphis. Mesaba serves 114 cities in 30 states and Canada.

Although ALPA has told Northwest management that Northwest pilots will not operate flights on the Mesaba routes if there is a strike, a Northwest spokeswoman said Wednesday that talk of a strike is still hypothetical.

"If one should occur, we will have contingency plans that we will execute in order to accommodate our passengers in the best way possible," said spokeswoman Mary Stanik.

Mesaba shares fell 56 cents, or more than 7 percent, to close at $7.28 on the Nasdaq Stock Market.
 
"If one should occur, we will have contingency plans that we will execute in order to accommodate our passengers in the best way possible,"

That sounds like "best efforts" clauses in contract, and we all know that works out. Pax will be screwed on all routes served only by Mesaba, unless they put them on a bus. On routes served my Mesaba and NWA or Pinnacle they can re-book pax on NWA or Pinnacle, but there are only so many seats. Or they can send the pax through ATL, DFW, or ORD
 
How is suing over the mishandling of 401k funds a "frivolous lawsuit"?
 
LOL mesaba2425 for bumping a thread which labels XJ management the next Enron.

Lets see. Mr. Spanjers = Jeffrey Skilling and Mr. Strobel= Andrew Fastow. Mr. Foley= Ken Lay 'I didn't know anything about it! I plead ignorance!'

I'd like to see the "contingency plans" for the passengers in STC, INL, BJI, BRD, TVF, ATY, ABR, HIB, GPZ, EAU, MCW, FOD, CMX, JMS, DVL..............
 
EAL

I am sure the EAL pilots felt the same way, we will go on strike and the company will meet our demands.
 
HAHAHAHA.......Mesaba2425 you are a moron. I will have to bump this one too.


so here you go BUMP
 
Response from Mesaba

Mesaba Aviation Statement in Response to ALPA Lawsuit
Wednesday December 31, 2:51 pm ET


MINNEAPOLIS & ST. PAUL, Minn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 31, 2003--Mesaba Aviation, Inc., a subsidiary company of MAIR Holdings, Inc. (Nasdaq:MAIR - News) issued the following statement from its president and chief operating officer John Spanjers today, concerning the lawsuit filed by the Air Line Pilots Association:
"Mesaba Airlines regrets the errors that occurred in certain employees' 401(k) accounts, and we have disclosed these errors to the IRS and the Department of Labor. We also have communicated to all employees the nature of the errors and our plan for both correcting them and preventing their recurrence. We believe this lawsuit is unnecessary given our commitment to correcting the errors.

"We are disappointed that ALPA deemed a lawsuit necessary at this time, because since we self-disclosed these errors, we have worked closely with ALPA to address the concerns of the Mesaba pilots -- and all Mesaba employees -- and to rectify the errors.

"In addition, the timing of this lawsuit adds another layer of distraction as Mesaba approaches the Jan. 9 deadline in its pilot negotiations."
 
I'm not a member of management.

Maybe not, but you keep showing everyone on this board that you are management's tool. Not sure, but I think that is worse than being in management, since you don't get to partake of their trough of greed and corruption, yet you do their dirty work.

We believe this lawsuit is unnecessary given our commitment to correcting the errors.

Ahh... Could this be the commitment they said they would meet on Nov. 30, to make every affected pilot whole, but missed with no explanation?

Why should we believe the Senior MisLeadership Team anyway? This is the same group that promised all employees of Mesaba a "Herculean effort" at the last negotiating session yet came to the table without a single proposal.

It would seem that this lawsuit is not only far from frivolous, but in fact quite necessary in the quest to hold management accountable for their poor decisions.

The sad thing is that since you are not management this may even affect you; There is no evidence to suggest that pilots are the only group missing funds. Flight Attendants and Mechanics, current and PAST, are most likely missing money as well.
 
I think mesaba2425 is also xjmxtech on this board and over a yahoo he is Mesabamair. He posted the same stuff over there.
Definitely in management at Mesaba.

Mesaba2425, you are one of those who takes pot shots from the sidelines and never provides any logic to back it up. Everything you post is a negative and it is always the pilots fault. A prime example is the 401k issue. Our company waited to tell us about the shortfall until they were forced into it when a journalist reported it in the paper. But all you can say here and at yahoo is that ALPA has filed a frivolous lawsuit.
 
What does "bump" mean?
 
Bump is what mesaba2425 is going to have on his head if I ever meet 'em in person.
 
When some one makes a post, it moves the thread back to the top of the page.

Bump is just a word that people say when the don't have anything to say, but want the thread to move to the top of the page.
 
I wonder what would happen to an instructor if he or she was caught stealing money that was not theirs from Mesaba?

I wonder what would happen if a mechaninc was caught driving maintance cars to the bank, McDonalds, and Meijers off of Belleville Road? (seen the later with my own eyes)

mesaba2425 just wants to make sure that he does not have to give back his wild pay so XJ can properly fund the 401k as set by FEDERAL LAWS.
 
Yep. 2425 has but one master.

Himself.

Cross your fingers 2425. You may actually have to WORK for a living soon.

Scary isn't it ?

If he should lose his job and can no longer featherbed for a living ?


I'd be :)
 

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