lowecur
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Hard to believe this guy is on the MEC. Glad to see he flys 757's, which means he'll be looking for work soon.
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Karen Ferrick-Roman, Times Staff
10/03/2004
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Besides all this heavy concession talk, US Airways pilots might want to hatch another scheme to get paid.
While waiting word on a tentative agreement between US Airways and the Air Line Pilots Association, Fred Freshwater floated this idea.
Put a nice little sign near the cockpit: Will work for tips.
"If the airline doesn't want to pay us, maybe the passengers will," said Freshwater, chairman of the Pittsburgh pilots union council. "Really, when you do the math, it could be very beneficial."
Freshwater, a captain, suggested a $20 tip per passenger for captains. As for the first officers, well, $10 would do.
Freshwater flies Boeing 757s, which can seat 193. So, with a $20 tip from each passenger, that would be a tidy $3,860 for a 3½-hour flight to Las Vegas for him. The right-hand man or woman would get only $1,930.
Or, at a standard 15 percent, on an $89, one-way ticket to Vegas, Freshwater could get $13.35 per passenger as a tip - $2,576.55 total.
Hey, he said, it works for the cruise lines.
Except usually, in real life, the officers on the seas don't rake in the tips, said Cindy Martin, a travel agent with Tri Valley Travel in Beaver Falls.
Carnival Cruise Lines suggests tips for about everybody else on board who might make a bed, bring water or clear a buffet plate, Martin said: $3.60 per person, per day for stateroom services; $5.50 per person per day for the dining room team, 90 cents per person per day if you eat somewhere other than the main dining room.
Or you might want to take the mathematically easy way out and pay $10 per person per day. For the ever-popular weeklong cruise, that would amount to $140 total per couple.
The Royal Caribbean Cruise Line suggests a slightly different scale: $3.50 per person, per day for stateroom services; $3.50 per person, per day for the waiter; $5.75 per person, per day for in-cabin services; $2 per person, per day for the assistant waiter and don't forget 75 cents per person, per day for the head waiter.
The Holland America Line has had a no-tipping policy, Martin said, but is wavering.
And some cruise ships are trying to get tips pre-paid, included in the price of the cruise. If service is lacking - or superb - the guest can visit the purser and have the amount adjusted, even removed, Martin said. But so far, most local travelers are resistant to the pay-in-advance tipping system.
So, if service is counted in, regardless of a smooth flight, pilots might have a tougher time than they think about tips.
Travelers "have been groped and searched already to get on the plane," Martin said. "I don't know how they'd (pilots) do."
Karen Ferrick-Roman can be reached online at [email protected].
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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][size=+1]Amid wage-cut talks, a union official suggests tipping pilots [/size][/font]
Karen Ferrick-Roman, Times Staff
10/03/2004
[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Besides all this heavy concession talk, US Airways pilots might want to hatch another scheme to get paid.
While waiting word on a tentative agreement between US Airways and the Air Line Pilots Association, Fred Freshwater floated this idea.
Put a nice little sign near the cockpit: Will work for tips.
"If the airline doesn't want to pay us, maybe the passengers will," said Freshwater, chairman of the Pittsburgh pilots union council. "Really, when you do the math, it could be very beneficial."
Freshwater, a captain, suggested a $20 tip per passenger for captains. As for the first officers, well, $10 would do.
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Freshwater flies Boeing 757s, which can seat 193. So, with a $20 tip from each passenger, that would be a tidy $3,860 for a 3½-hour flight to Las Vegas for him. The right-hand man or woman would get only $1,930.
Or, at a standard 15 percent, on an $89, one-way ticket to Vegas, Freshwater could get $13.35 per passenger as a tip - $2,576.55 total.
Hey, he said, it works for the cruise lines.
Except usually, in real life, the officers on the seas don't rake in the tips, said Cindy Martin, a travel agent with Tri Valley Travel in Beaver Falls.
Carnival Cruise Lines suggests tips for about everybody else on board who might make a bed, bring water or clear a buffet plate, Martin said: $3.60 per person, per day for stateroom services; $5.50 per person per day for the dining room team, 90 cents per person per day if you eat somewhere other than the main dining room.
Or you might want to take the mathematically easy way out and pay $10 per person per day. For the ever-popular weeklong cruise, that would amount to $140 total per couple.
The Royal Caribbean Cruise Line suggests a slightly different scale: $3.50 per person, per day for stateroom services; $3.50 per person, per day for the waiter; $5.75 per person, per day for in-cabin services; $2 per person, per day for the assistant waiter and don't forget 75 cents per person, per day for the head waiter.
The Holland America Line has had a no-tipping policy, Martin said, but is wavering.
And some cruise ships are trying to get tips pre-paid, included in the price of the cruise. If service is lacking - or superb - the guest can visit the purser and have the amount adjusted, even removed, Martin said. But so far, most local travelers are resistant to the pay-in-advance tipping system.
So, if service is counted in, regardless of a smooth flight, pilots might have a tougher time than they think about tips.
Travelers "have been groped and searched already to get on the plane," Martin said. "I don't know how they'd (pilots) do."
Karen Ferrick-Roman can be reached online at [email protected].
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), and probably has enough money put away to retire very nicely even if the airline goes 7. These are vindictive guys who want to take the airline down. Hopefully, some of the juniors file a Denial of Fair Representation law suit against this guy. He better hope the union carries an E&O policy to defend him, or he could lose everything he has.
