Freezing Rain

[s3jetman]

Okay don’t crucify me on this one. I am just asking because, I, unlike some pilots, am not super be1900 pilot guy. I can swallow my ego and ask a question to those who have more experience and knowledge.

I know the FAA will not alloy any AC to operate in “severe icing” thus the FAA has qualified “freezing rain” as severe icing. That is understood but why do I see hold over times for light freezing rain. At my company we are not allowed to operate in -FZRA, when asked why not the answer I get is no plane is authorized. Well why do I see a hold over time for it on the FAA published hold over times. I have no problem not flying in this crap, but I am just curious if any airline has the ability to operate in –FZRA. Just a question on the procedures if allowed. I am just trying to learn something I am not trying to fly in this weather or think we should just looking for some answers

 

[GEORGE DUBYA]

Yes a lot of airlines can operate in light freezing rain

 

[kf4amu]

Light freezing rain is different than freezing rain, as I understand.

 

[s3jetman]

yea i understand the -fzra is diffent than staight fzra. but are there any special procedures that have to be followed when operating in -fzra. min climb perforamance, could top reports, temp reports that have to be meet?

 

[CFI2766]

Flightinfo has long since ceased to be a source of valid flight/aeronautical info.

Someone will make an issue of you flying a 1900, that you might be with GIA, might be paying for a job that someone else could be doing for a salary, which are all valid points.

 

[s3jetman]

yea i know ive heard it all. Im still here cause i lost my medical for 5 years 4 months and 4 days. I have paid my dues so i am not getting into this discussion. I am just trying to improve my knowledge so i will be a better pilot.

 

[G21Agoose]

Flightinfo has long since ceased to be a source of valid flight/aeronautical info.

What do you want to know? Just ask.

 

[CFI2766]

It's a fuzzy thing, this paying your dues. Everyone thinks that they suffered more to get to where they are at than you did.

However, do you work at GIA?

 

[s3jetman]

just wantig to know if there are any special requirments for operating in -fzra from airlines that are able to do it.

and yes i am a capt for gia based in cle

not saying i paid more than anyone esle, everbody pays his/her dues in some way.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

just wantig to know if there are any special requirments for operating in -fzra from

and yes i am a capt for gia based in cle

If your company doesn't publish a holdover and states that you can't operate in -FZRA then well head back to the gate or divert. Most airlines can with type 4 depart inside the published holdover time with light ONLY not moderate or severe. But that holdover time is very short so you had better be ready and able to depart within a few minutes of deicing.... Perhaps it's because the BE1900 can't take type 4? I have no idea/experience on that plane so I don't know, I do know that the citation 500 series couldn't use type 4 because of the slow Vr speeds and therefor could not take off in any type of freezing rain legally at my old charter company. (not to say others didn't do it)