Fortune 100 Best Places to Work- CAL couldn't buy the award in 2008

[mamba20]

That might take a while! Please let us know when you leave I am curious which airline will hire you first. I envy your guts to chase that nice green grass. I on the other hand, would rather just work on my lawn.

The problem with CAL is the employee group has voted in the worse contract in CAL history. (with the exception of scope sorry Pocohole) Everything else at this airline is looking good. but if you are not happy here, then please go. I am sure no one will stop you and unfortunately, you will not be the first to leave. However, I do think you will be one of the last.



I just can't imagine being at the bottom of any one of those airline's seniority list, especially Delta, 12,000 plus pilots! no thanks.

And when we merge with United?

 

[PHXFLYR]

CAL and SWA pilots need to keep saying the slogans they are told and believing they work for the best airlines in the industry.

And keep up the good attitude when you are suffering from fatigue after your five crossings on your light schedule getting paid for four because of your sick call. And after you get your min rest after a double divert home. And brag about your $5000 per month gross check with $2500 of take home pay after you have funded your retirement, paid hundreds of dollars for the health insurance you just got, paid back the loan you took out to survive the first year a few years ago, made your student loan payment and flight training credit card 19% interest payments, paid for your new uniforms, luggage, and recent medical. And then get to live in those wonderful bases or suffer a commute to work the next time into a snow storm or thunderstorm area without a commuter policy and supervisory pilot ready to dock your pay. Oh, and don't call in sick or your busted!

But hey, you got a slogan and you can tell everyone your company has bought a few JD Power Associate Awards. What a feather in your cap.

And then there is the corndog 737 lifer who thinks an international overnight is anywhere out of Texas. What time is it in Texas when your in Paris? Who thinks autopilots are for wimps, everyone is a Kentucky Fried Chicken Colonel. Who thinks pilots should fly till their 70's now and plan to push for the next change and currently like flying with over 60 pilots. Who think six legs or more a day is a walk in the park. And doesn't care if its company inspects its aircraft by FAA standards or not. And needs a new flight manual issued every six months to keep the good-o-boys 30 years of stunt flying a little safer after a few recent high profile Evil Kinevals off the ends of a few runways in Burbank and Midway. But hey, Colleen sends you a birthday card and you get to wear those cool fighter pilot jackets and look like you just got off your 25 missions over Germany.

So enjoy your slogans and keep bringing the industry career standards down to new lows to undercut the competition. And buy a few more sparklers and tinsel to go with your corndogs and maybe someday you will all learn how to use the automation Boeing delievered the airplane with after your company puts the boxes back in the aircraft if they can find the pawn shop they sold them to.

..!!!


PHXFLYR

 

[nimtz]

If I'm not mistaken, CAL made some lame co-op a few years back by stating that they had made the list too much. So in the future they had to withdraw the name from consideration. It was finely spun koolaid to say the least. That's the logic used for not being on the list anymore.

Let's be realistic, no freaking US airline deserves on this list. I don't care if you get unlimited peanuts or a Ford Explorer for perfect attendance, you still work in an industry the public loathes. I make the best of it, but I also don't let management koolaid cloud reality.

 

[GuppyWN]

And needs a new flight manual issued every six months to keep the good-o-boys 30 years of stunt flying a little safer after a few recent high profile Evil Kinevals off the ends of a few runways in Burbank and Midway.

The MDW pilots did everything by the book. Joshua Woods did not die because of pilot error. He died because of innacurate braking reports and a weather observation that was not exactly timely.

I wish you'd pop off like that to my face.

Gup

 

[SMOE]

And sorry SWA, but you guys don't make the cut either.

Looks like CAL and SWA will just have to keep telling their employees how great they are as it appears most believe it. Do CAL and SWA pilots get to take those banners home and put them up on their walls or does Larry and Gary come over each night and tuck you in?

Hopefully in 2009, the awards will cost CAL and SWA less and they can again afford to buy one.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/bestcompanies/2009/full_list/

So, I guess the interviews at both places didn't go well, eh?

 

[SMOE]

CAL Sucks... I am out here as soon as SWA, FedEx, UPS or Delta start hiring...
Feb is a vacation month... Lucky me, I get to do 5 crossing instead of 6...
Next month, I get to do training on my days off and just wait until summertime...

Care to trade positions a$$hole?

 

[CA1900]

The MDW pilots did everything by the book...

The NTSB disagrees:

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: The pilots' failure to use available reverse thrust in a timely manner to safely slow or stop the airplane after landing, which resulted in a runway overrun...

The first officer said that, when he sensed a decrease in the airplane's deceleration during the landing sequence, he exclaimed, "brakes, brakes, brakes," and manually applied the brakes. He stated that he then looked at the throttle console and saw that the thrust reverse levers were still in the stowed position. The first officer moved the captain's hand away from the thrust reverser levers and, about 15 seconds after touchdown, initiated deployment of the thrust reversers to the maximum reverse setting...

 

[Pocono Pilot]

I really can't understand why CAL pilots take such crap from their management? But one thing I do know is that they do. LOL

I think CAL pilots have battered wife syndrome.

 

[say again]

The MDW pilots did everything by the book. Joshua Woods did not die because of pilot error. He died because of innacurate braking reports and a weather observation that was not exactly timely.

I wish you'd pop off like that to my face.

Gup

Keep telling yourself that!!

 

[BID]

I really can't understand why CAL pilots take such crap from their management? But one thing I do know is that they do. LOL

I think CAL pilots have battered wife syndrome.

it is true our management is tough, All you have to do is ask your management.

 

[Pocono Pilot]

it is true our management is tough, All you have to do is ask your management.

At least our management stands up for itself. Unlike you guys that just roll over, um, I mean bend over.. LOL hehe

 

[luckytohaveajob]

I'm still wondering when SWA is going to learn how to fly? LNAV, VNAV, Auto Throttles, Auto Brakes, thrust reversers, ACARS, are standard equipment. What pawn shop did SWA sell those boxes too? Might be nice if you started operating as a Boeing was designed to be flown.

And CAL, it might be nice if your pilots grew some and started demanding what a legacy carrier pilot deserves verse the third world standards, CAL has been operating under since 1983. When MESA ALPA called and asked to photocopy the CAL ALPA contract, how flattered was CAL ALPA's MEC? Did CAL ALPA put out a press release stating they were in a new union parntership accord with MESA a fellow JD Power and Associates Award winning airline?

You know, TWA won a JD Power and Associates award and had quite the contract in 2001 as well?

 

[Thebadcat1313]

Remember the best Pocono Pilot quote of all time:

"CAL could be the most secure major out there. Also, there is a good chance that CAL will be the highest paid eventually with a new contract.

I hope to be there soon. "

 

[Kugelblitz]

CAL is a best place to work. LOL

Maybe if you don't want any health insurance or respect or a life. LOL

I heard that anyone who went to CAL from Express really regrets the decision. I'm really glad that I decided to stay where I'm at. Plus, I heard that tons of people left CAL after a few months because it was so bad.

I guess Larry needed more turtle wax for his forehead, so he decided not to pay for the awards this year. LOL

As a CAL employee I can tell you that it pretty much does suck around here most of the time. In your case, if you decided to stay at a regional, good luck with that. Enjoy the big fish in a small pond situation while you can, chances are your company doesn't own the planes you fly and your company has no control over your route structure. I have met plenty of disenchanted express jet pilots who are still glad they made the move rather than stay on the regional side. I am not a spokesman for CAL (hell no!) but we haven't lost "tons" of people to other airlines so far as I am aware.

I am 4th year pay this year and should crack 100K which most regional captains don't do in many years if ever. I refuse to comment on our work rules for the simple reason that they essentially don't exist...

We are in contract negotiations, things will get better here. Now how much better is the question....

 

[B727Driver]

I'm still wondering when SWA is going to learn how to fly? LNAV, VNAV, Auto Throttles, Auto Brakes, thrust reversers, ACARS, are standard equipment. What pawn shop did SWA sell those boxes too? Might be nice if you started operating as a Boeing was designed to be flown.


Why do you care? Why such hatred towards SWA.
Take your meds and let it go.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

I don't care. But what is crazy are the pilots who think SWA is the great.

 

[cjdriver]

Anyone care to elaborate on the SWA operating issues in regards to automation? Sounds interesting.

 

[Quimby]

I'm still wondering when SWA is going to learn how to fly? LNAV, VNAV, Auto Throttles, Auto Brakes, thrust reversers, ACARS, are standard equipment. What pawn shop did SWA sell those boxes too? Might be nice if you started operating as a Boeing was designed to be flown.

And CAL, it might be nice if your pilots grew some and started demanding what a legacy carrier pilot deserves verse the third world standards, CAL has been operating under since 1983. When MESA ALPA called and asked to photocopy the CAL ALPA contract, how flattered was CAL ALPA's MEC? Did CAL ALPA put out a press release stating they were in a new union parntership accord with MESA a fellow JD Power and Associates Award winning airline?

You know, TWA won a JD Power and Associates award and had quite the contract in 2001 as well?

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

 

[Quimby]

I don't care. But what is crazy are the pilots who think SWA is the great.

For not caring, you sure are wound up about what SWA & CAL are doing.

...what is "the great"?

 

[donvag]

Is pocono pilot for real? Any pilot out there knows that a $hitty major is better than a good regional. Looks like she got rejected by CAL and decided to bash it. at least if you were in CAL you know where you and your company would be 10 years from now. being at Distress Jet... not so much