F'N H0Jets and Mess-up

[BlackPilot628]

ERJFO will be a piece of work if and when he becomes CA!!

Oh yeah! uke:

 

[ERJFO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by GINCHBLASTER
One day you'll realize that all regionals suck, and nobody has the right to talk crap on anyone else.


I'm not intending to talk crap, infact I apologise if I've upset anyone. I just feel that as of right now I make too little for this job as it is and our contract is one of the best out there in terms of pay and QOL rules.

My company is about to posibly loose some airplanes, if that happens (and we furlough around 700 guys) I will become a very junior F/O.

If we loose that flying it will most likley go to a company that has a worse contract and therefore a cheeper block hour cost. Personally, I think that because people are willing to work for these undercutting airlines for less QOL and less compensation it will impact comapnies such as mine.

I know there is no way to reverse what is happening now but I think that if people never PFT'ed and never worked for less than 30 dollars an hour of 2nd year pay this wouldn't have happened.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captjiggles
ERJFO will be a piece of work if and when he becomes CA!!


I think most that know me and have flown with me think I will be a good CA. As stated before I'm just upset with the way pilots are being treated in this world.

Somewhere along the line someone agreed to pay for training and to fly for too little money because it "would get them a job."

This has hurt all of us.

That is all I am saying, I am sorry for upsetting some of you.

 

[BlackPilot628]

ERJFO,

I would give you one great and honest complement. At least you were man enough to apologize. I hope that when you become a Capt. that you won't deny anyone the jumpseat. Jumpseat wars are NOT going to help our problems; they will only turn the pilot groups against each other.

 

[gkrangers]

ERJFO,

I would give you one great and honest complement. At least you were man enough to apologize. I hope that when you become a Capt. that you won't deny anyone the jumpseat. Jumpseat wars are NOT going to help our problems; they will only turn the pilot groups against each other.

Like that hasn't already happened.

Its already pilots vs pilots.

 

[SF340Guy]

Congratulations SF340Girl, you're the winner today of the "Biggest Idiot Award"! And that takes a lot on this particular forum.

Wow, I like that... Did you think of that all on your own... To take the Guy in my screenname and change it to girl. Your a smart one.

Yet another (amongst a long list) of reasons I decided to get out of the regional, and airline, industry was commuting. I can't recall the number of times my flight to/from work was cancelled or significantly delayed. But, you know what, that's just part of life being a commuter. It happens...you accept that as a commuter, and plan ahead accordingly. If you don't, you end up crying like a little kid (such as what you're doing)...and making yourself look like a complete and total idiot (which, apparently, you are). Although, no doubt as to why the regional industry is heading down the tubes.

Yeah, well I wasn't commuting... I was home for a funeral, but thats ok, I guess travel privilages should only be used by people going to and from work.

If you are out of the industry, what are you doing waisting your time on this post? Shouldn't you be perusing the Orkin Forum, or whatever it is you do now?

 

[GINCHBLASTER]

Personally, I think that because people are willing to work for these undercutting airlines for less QOL and less compensation it will impact comapnies such as mine.

Yes this is true, however there are not enough jobs at the highest paying airlines for everybody. People can't sit around and wait for the job at the airline of their choice, our careers are ticking clocks. Thats why you see people flying for those outfits.

Another true statement you made is if nobody went to those companies and worked they would have to raise their wages, but it will never happen. There are just too many pilots. It's never going to change. We are just going to have to deal with it. I know it sucks.

 

[The Truth]

SF340, I'm here because of types like you...the children. Immature, (oftentimes) uneducated kids that have no concept as to what the "real world" is all about. And, no, the real world isn't the TV show you watch on MTV.

I left the regional industry several years ago to go back to my first career, engineering. I'm doing quite well, thank you, as the owner of my own company...but I won't elaborate on my success. To further answer your question on why I'm here, it's primarily for comedic reasons (i.e: I find the posts on this forum absolutely hilarious...even though their intent is to be serious). The immaturity and flat-out stupidity of some on this board makes me not only laugh, but consider myself so fortunate for leaving the industry when I did. I have to laugh at all of the hatred and "I'm better than you because I work for..." attitudes that exist, amongst other things.

I have no doubt that your post was intended to stir the pot on further bashing the airlines and crews you mentioned...for whatever good that does. It was pilots like you that were a primary reason that I had to leave the aviation "profession". As a Captain, I had some kids as FO's ("kids" regardless of their age) whose only exposure to the real world was their last "full-time" jobs as a stocker for Safeway, or working as an assistant manager at Blockbuster. Yet, they felt that they had a clue as to what the business world, let alone aviation, was all about. They would attribute their failures to other airlines, and would never accept the fact that the business world (and aviation IS a business) isn't fair, equal, or caring. In other words, because, for instance, they weren't upgrading as quick as pilots at another regional, they would come up with some reason as to why that regional sucked. Self-justification at its finest.

But I hope that logic and common sense don't start to infiltrate the thoughts of those like you, because that would make this forum less hysterical. I can't imagine what this place would be like if mature, knowledgeable, and professional types only posted...BOOOOORING!!! And to even fathom what it would be like if only facts, versus fabricated lies and rumors, were used (cringes at the thought)

 

[Snoop]

Hey Truth...

Was that "a real profession" in your little description box? Real as in what? Not flying? Listen loser, you left, good for you... Your own company? Great for you....Mopping up the glory holes in road side bathrooms wearing a jacket that says Inc next your name is a real shiner of a company... You should stick to reading the crumpled up magazine pages on the floor of the next urinal you mop and leave the horsesh*t here to those still here. So, get back on your high horse, kick its sides with your sh*t covered boots and pound sound. Real professions like yours are fine. But you are at the wrong board... Glory hole cleaners are posting on some other site I am sure some blojet ass could direct you to...

 

[g-code]

I don't get denied, most likley because I don't work for a SCAB airline.

*************************s is not a scab airline. They are low-lifes but they are not scabs. Dont throw that word around because you obviously don't know what it means.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

When was the last time someone won a jumpseat war? You guys denying the jump need to think about what's going to happen to your fellow pilots if they try and commute on the carrier you've chosen to deny. I'm not defending G0-Jet's. They're a pathetic group. However think long and hard before starting a jumpseat war.

 

[BlackPilot628]

When was the last time someone won a jumpseat war? You guys denying the jump need to think about what's going to happen to your fellow pilots if they try and commute on the carrier you've chosen to deny. I'm not defending G0-Jet's. They're a pathetic group. However think long and hard before starting a jumpseat war.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[commuterpuke]

Like all of us I wanted the uniform, to fly a cool jet as quick as possible, to feel equal to my friends, have hot chicks look at you during boarding while you flip switches and look cool, and all that other stuff

 

[ERJFO]

ERJFO,

I would give you one great and honest complement. At least you were man enough to apologize. I hope that when you become a Capt. that you won't deny anyone the jumpseat. Jumpseat wars are NOT going to help our problems; they will only turn the pilot groups against each other.

Are you telling me that CAs should let anyone on their jumpseat? Why should/does the CA even have authority over his jumpseat then?

 

[johndt]

*************************s is not a scab airline. They are low-lifes but they are not scabs. Dont throw that word around because you obviously don't know what it means.

From dictionary.com, the first applicable definition is as follows:

4. Slang. A person regarded as contemptible.
5.
a. A worker who refuses membership in a labor union.
b. An employee who works while others are on strike; a strikebreaker.
c. A person hired to replace a striking worker.

Merriam-Webster's first applicable definition is number 3: a contemptible person

So anyway, a g0jet pilot seems to fit the bill there, no? By the dictionary at any rate.

 

[ERJFO]

From dictionary.com, the first applicable definition is as follows:

4. Slang. A person regarded as contemptible.
5.
a. A worker who refuses membership in a labor union.
b. An employee who works while others are on strike; a strikebreaker.
c. A person hired to replace a striking worker.

Merriam-Webster's first applicable definition is number 3: a contemptible person

So anyway, a g0jet pilot seems to fit the bill there, no? By the dictionary at any rate.

Let's try ALPA's definition:

A SCAB takes your job, a Job he could not get under normal circumstances. He can only advance himself by taking advantage of labor disputes and
walking over the backs of workers trying to maintain decent wages and working conditions. He helps management to destroy his and your profession,
often ending up under conditions he/she wouldn't even have scabbed for. No matter. A SCAB doesn't think long term, nor does he think of anything other
then himself. His smile shows fangs that drip with your blood, for he willingly destroys families, lives, careers, opportunities and professions at the drop of
a hat. He takes from a striker what he knows he could never earn by his own merit: a decent Job. He steals that which others earned at the bargaining
table through blood, sweat and tears, and throws it away in an instant - ruining lives, jobs and careers.

-Walking over the backs of working trying to maintian decent wages and working conditions.

- Helps management to destroy his and your preofession.

That seams pretty fitting to me.

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[D.sanchez]

Let's try ALPA's definition:

A SCAB takes your job, a Job he could not get under normal circumstances. He can only advance himself by taking advantage of labor disputes and
walking over the backs of workers trying to maintain decent wages and working conditions. He helps management to destroy his and your profession,
often ending up under conditions he/she wouldn't even have scabbed for. No matter. A SCAB doesn't think long term, nor does he think of anything other
then himself. His smile shows fangs that drip with your blood, for he willingly destroys families, lives, careers, opportunities and professions at the drop of
a hat. He takes from a striker what he knows he could never earn by his own merit: a decent Job. He steals that which others earned at the bargaining
table through blood, sweat and tears, and throws it away in an instant - ruining lives, jobs and careers.

-Walking over the backs of working trying to maintian decent wages and working conditions.

- Helps management to destroy his and your preofession.

That seams pretty fitting to me.


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Excellent post ERJFO....I am sick and tired of people saying G--0Jet's pilots aren't scabs... They're scabs.

 

[rtmcfi]

When was the last time someone won a jumpseat war? You guys denying the jump need to think about what's going to happen to your fellow pilots if they try and commute on the carrier you've chosen to deny. I'm not defending G0-Jet's. They're a pathetic group. However think long and hard before starting a jumpseat war.

Any other suggestions on how we can apply pressureto these reprehensible losers?

 

[I.P. Freley]

It's the Riddle kids like that that don't take a stand for anything and doin't realize flying is a job that are driving down this industry.

Ah, I see, so it's the RIDDLE grads' fault.