Fmla

[Mookie]

Hey all, I'm trying to put together a list of Airlines that allow pilots FMLA.

Thanks,
mookie

 

[Raoul Duke]

All of them. It is a federal law

 

[Full of LUV]

Not yet......

All of them. It is a federal law

It is if you work for Home Depot or Walmart, but Airline employees are exempt under the current law. I know ALPA put in some legislative juice to try and get this changed........ Some companies offer it anyway, despite the "legal" requirement being absent. Duke, get up with the times.....

 

[sitnresrv]

Your wrong, he's right!! I needed FMLA with my Airline a while back and was given it because my Airline was required by law to give it. My only requirement was to prove that I needed it. Once you prove it, they have to allow it.

 

[flyn96]

It is law, they recently passed the Aircrew Correction clause and was added to FMLA act.

 

[samballs]

Comair allows it

 

[T B O N E]

What is FMLA? An offshoot of NAMBLA?

 

[Lear70]

It is law, they recently passed the Aircrew Correction clause and was added to FMLA act.

That's absolutely correct.

Some airlines TELL the employees they are not eligible, but you ARE, whether they like it or not.

The Aircrew Correction clause was put into effect and basically equates Duty Time to "hours worked", which MORE than qualifies any normal pilot who hasn't been on long-term leave for most of the year (assuming a 70 hour line with 2 hours duty for every hour of flying, 140 hours a month reaches 1,000 hours per year at work in a little over 7 months).

Fill out the FMLA paperwork, submit it, and let them know you'll be calling your local State Department of Labor office if they give you a hard time about it. The State DoL comes down pretty hard on employers who try to deny State and Federal benefits to their employees.

 

[Raoul Duke]

they can deny your request for other reasons - i.e. it has to be a serious health condition - not the flu

 

[jonjuan]

It is if you work for Home Depot or Walmart, but Airline employees are exempt under the current law. I know ALPA put in some legislative juice to try and get this changed........ Some companies offer it anyway, despite the "legal" requirement being absent. Duke, get up with the times.....

Give me that bottle, you pumpkin pie, hair cutted freak. Been sucking back on granpa's cough syrup, have we?

 

[Lear70]

they can deny your request for other reasons - i.e. it has to be a serious health condition - not the flu

Silly me... I thought if you were applying for FMLA that you'd actually make sure you QUALIFY before you applied.

You can also take FMLA to care for the serious health condition of a spouse, child, or other, immediate family member, and you can also take it for your spouse's delivery of a child (assuming you're a guy), but not as long as the standard 90 day FMLA period for most serious health conditions.

Bottom line is, if you qualify like any OTHER employee would, you can take it, they can't deny you based on "hours of service" anymore, like many airlines have tried to do in the past.

 

[8v8ter]

What Mookie is refering to is that FMLA used to state that an employee is only qualified for it if they work full-time and defined full-time as more than 1000 hours (+/-) per year. Alaska airlines denied pilots and I think FAs requests because they used flight time as work time and no pilot can work more than 1000 and therefore were denied it. Hence the need for the recent legislation which should now make it possible for us all to get it. Alaska really surprised me with that take because I was at Trans States when I had my kids and both times they never even questioned it, and they are no lovers of employee rights.

 

[Fubijaakr]

All of them. It is a federal law

Wrong. Here's why:

What Mookie is refering to is that FMLA used to state that an employee is only qualified for it if they work full-time and defined full-time as more than 1000 hours (+/-) per year. Alaska airlines denied pilots and I think FAs requests because they used flight time as work time and no pilot can work more than 1000 and therefore were denied it.

Alaska's position was that since pilots only worked 85 hours a month they were "part-time" employees.

 

[crash312]

they can deny your request for other reasons - i.e. it has to be a serious health condition - not the flu

Serious health condition is defined as causing you to miss more than 3 days of work...pretty sure the flu would qualify.

 

[Lear70]

Wrong. Here's why:



Alaska's position was that since pilots only worked 85 hours a month they were "part-time" employees.

And Alaska's policy is illegal per Federal Law now, as law has been expanded to SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE airline employees just for that reason.

They don't have a choice. It's just that simple.