Flying the Global Express

[Heavy Set]

An out-of-work friend of mine has an opportunity to interview for an FO position on a Global Express. He has a lot of international flying time - he has 747 experience.

Anyone out there fly one of these aircraft? What are your impressions? How do they compare with what you used to fly?


Thanks

 

[hogdriver00]

global

Heavy,

For the most part it's a good airplane. The comparison that I've heard is that the GV is a pilots AC and the Global is a Pax AC. I think that's probably true. It has what you would expect in the way of new program problems. I've heard the GV has had less.
The performance numbers for T/O and Lnd are impressive and it's pretty comfortable.
On the downside, it's a little tricky in a strong X-wind, you feel every bump on the ground because you sit on the NW, in fact you feel a lot of things up front that are not felt in the back. The wings are about twelve feet in front of the nose when you turn on the ground and some FBO's are not that familiar so you need to be careful.
I like it.

Hog

 

[GVFlyer]

There is an extensive discussion on the Global at:




http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3197

 

[hogdriver00]

Global Express

GV,

Not trying to throw spears at you, just an observation but do you work for Gulfstream? The reason I ask is that although some of what you say about the Global is true much of it is not. Your posts sound like a demo pilot trying to trash the competition.

Hog

 

[robebcan]

Flying the GEX

The GEX is an incredible pilot's airplane. It has somewhat more feel than a Falcon, but is light, responsive and stable. I have flown upwards of 30 aircraft, and none have been as nice as a Global in a crosswind. Additionally, it is as easy to land as a B-747. It is an absolute delight to fly most of the time, but especially in rotten weather. My experience on this aircraft exceeds 5 years, yet I still hand-fly it from/to altitude and use the A/P only for cruise, because it is so easy to fly smoothly. Most of the early problems were nuisances, and these have been overcome either through outright fixes or operator awareness.

 

[hogdriver00]

Global

Not!

 

[GVFlyer]

Re: Global Express

GV,

Your posts sound like a demo pilot trying to trash the competition.

Hog

Sound like a demo pilot... that's not a very nice thing to say. Ask one of those guys what one-half rho V squared is, or the trig equation for radius-of-turn or to explain the difference between CL beta and CL delta r or any other fundamental of flight and they'll tell you about automatic 3-zone temperature control and humidifiers in the optional bidet

I ate dinner with a friend who's a Dassault salesman in New York last week. He was pretty trashed having just returned from the Singapore Airshow, but his information on the future of the Global was the same as mine. It is unlikely that the Global Express production line will be restarted. 81 aircraft have been delivered and just over 100 built. Completions on the final aircraft will be done in Montreal. Marshalls of Cambridge, who was slated to do over 20 completions has had their contract canceled by Bombardier.

I've had a chance to fly the Global since my earlier posts and there are a few more things I don't like about it. Don't dare interupt the built-in-tests on start-up or you'll end up rebooting the whole airplane. When evaluated for control friction, breakout, and freeplay you find that roll breakout forces on the strain gage are 5-6 pounds making it very difficult to hand fly smoothly. Range on the aircraft I flew was at best 8% less than what the cruise manual stated, which means compensatory payments because the Bombardier sales contract guarantees range +/- 5%. The Global could not have been certificated by the Atlanta Aircraft Certification Office (ACO) which certified the GV, because it does not have an Automatic Descent Mode or an automatic fuel heating system operating through the FADEC (to give fuel priority to the engines in an emergency), both of which were required on the GV because of it's endurance and altitude capabilities. The Global is a hand full in a crosswind and if you slow it down to do approaches to stalls you'll probably knock it off prior to the shaker because it feels like it's going to depart.

Other than that, it's a nice airplane.

GV






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[hogdriver00]

Global

Is the GV fly by wire? If not, why.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

c'mon GVdriver will also tell you that the "Gulfstream" 200 is a reliable airplane!!! I almost choked on that one!!! That thing has to be the biggest piece of shhit ever made!!!

Yes, the Gulfsream reputation was created on the reliability of thier older models (GII-GIV) but they are all old now, and they better come up with something better than a G200 to carry into the new generation! Just renaming everything is not going to cut it! Living off the GIV legacy will only last SO long!

Falcon Capt is right, this guy is off his rocker when it comes to Gulfstream!!!!!

Is he a Gulfstream demo pilot??????...haha!

 

[empenage]

GVFlyer:

Hey what ever happened to Seagrums GV's? You know the ones that both broke on that trip to Spain? I heard that when they got them back to the U.S. they pushed them both out of the hangar and told Gulfstream to come get them.

I hear FL Aviation spends most of their time flushing hydraulic systems on their GV.

Oh, by the way, what is the serial number on the GV in PBI? I was at FlightSafety and got to walk around that one.....tongue depressers huh? They have to hold the right wing up with rail road ties!

I love this "tit-for-tat" stuff...so immature...so childish! Makes me feel young again. Just minutes ago I felt like it was time for the "dirt shower". You made my day.

Crosswinds? No problem.
Fuel recirc. ? No problem.
Hand flying? No problem......for all "our" pilots.

Geez.....Maybe ya need some dual?