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Heavy Set said:
Look, you wouldn't invest in anything if it wouldn't ultimately give you a good return on investment (ROI). As far as I am concerned, it is better to be backed by a group with serious cash than a group with little resources...
Needed repeating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Sources?

Like all rumors, no one quotes a source. I am not looking for names, but a little clue about where these rumors start might add a little credibility, such as a brother of one of our board of directors says............

Otherwise, like others, I will believe it when Flight Options tells us 6 months later, when the sale is complete.
 
Time wil tell, and you are right on about Gemini, I just hope all works out for all involved and that it creates more pilot jobs. None of us will get a raise to a reasonable salary until there are less resume's sitting on file at these companies.

Did not realize Baker and the like were involved. They certainly add credibility to the group.

We fly double to triple the average hours ofcorporate guy and make a third of the salary in some cases
 
minimums said:
Like all rumors, no one quotes a source. I am not looking for names, but a little clue about where these rumors start might add a little credibility, such as a brother of one of our board of directors says............
Most of them come from a friend of a friend who has a buddy who knows the brother in law of the guy that shines the CEO's shoes. THAT, my friend, is why they are all so credible!
 
waka said:
Who funds the Saudis? We do!

You hit the nail on the head there.

Heck, it was our money that financed that whole 9/11 thing. Cut these guys off the greenbacks, and we don't have a terrorist problem.
 
FracCapt said:
Most of them come from a friend of a friend who has a buddy who knows the brother in law of the guy that shines the CEO's shoes. THAT, my friend, is why they are all so credible!
NOW I can sleep better at night, 'cause it has to be TRUE! :D

I think I will go buy that new Benz this weekend.:rolleyes:
 
And

Baker is an owner at NJ. Very interesting, love how management gets everyone side tracked with some goofy story.
 
Live4flyng said:
Baker is an owner at NJ. Very interesting, love how management gets everyone side tracked with some goofy story.

Being an owner at NJ doesn't equate to diehard loyalty. Carlyle probably saw BH raking in money from NJ and decided to get in the game.

People at this level have loyalty to only one entity--themselves. If they can get their costs down without causing costs to rise elsewhere(ie. training) they will do it.

Good luck to all.TC
 
Sale to Carlyle Group: Unlikely! Willing to bet ya that it is nothing more than FBO and aviation maintenance pricing discussions.
 
Hmmm...

I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing if it's true. But what I do know is that I still intend on jumping ship when the opportunity arises!
 
Bingo!!!

thor said:
Rumor be as it is, recent events indicate that FO is looking at everyway possible to reduce cost. The next move will be to reduce airline cost. Tier 3 guys, lookout. There is light at the end of the tunnel, but it is the train coming to hit you.
Thor is right. It doesn't matter if it is Carlyle, BH or whomever. The company is about to start slashing and burning. Remember, one of our goals this year is to make "more efficient use of our assets". We pilots are an asset. One way to maximize this asset is to make us work more days for the same annual pay. Adios 8 on 7 off, hello 6 and 4.
 
Hang on...

Starman, I imagine ALL of the pilots here are going to need to see concrete (read) REAL results, not just talk, before they investigate anything. We've literally WASTED 3 years of our lives by listening to the original "Fab 5's" lies and distortions. They ALL should have been thoroughly horse-whipped.

S.U. is a GREAT fresh start, but sadly...we're still locked firmly into square one.

Now the REAL game begins. HARDBALL. I hope all of us NJA drivers have the sand for it, because it can get REAL ugly. We can indeed pull this off, but we're gonna have to stand STRONG.
 
The ENTIRE fractional industry is watching. I am hopeful that S.U. is the beginning of a good thing.



Man I love my Avatar....
 
Turbojet--They made me tone down my avatar. Didn't you get the memo...

Even mine wasn't as in-your-face(so to speak! ;) ) as yours. Don't change it until you HAVE to!

:( I miss my old avatar...TC
 
sweptwingz said:
Starman, I imagine ALL of the pilots here are going to need to see concrete (read) REAL results, not just talk, before they investigate anything. We've literally WASTED 3 years of our lives by listening to the original "Fab 5's" lies and distortions. They ALL should have been thoroughly horse-whipped.

S.U. is a GREAT fresh start, but sadly...we're still locked firmly into square one.

Now the REAL game begins. HARDBALL. I hope all of us NJA drivers have the sand for it, because it can get REAL ugly. We can indeed pull this off, but we're gonna have to stand STRONG.
Here’s a point: The Bill Board outside Bridgeway is step one.



And Another: More communications in the last 3 months from NJASAP than in the last 3 years of the old MEC’s life..



And another: 284 will be GONE and that’s a fact...
 
No reason to go all LA LA over SU until we see results.

284 going bye bye would be nice. More Moo La would be nice too.
 
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Don't count those chickens just yet.

What has been posted here and at http://p068.ezboard.com/brtapilots (The board) is just smoke and mirrors.

The only thing we have going on is a lot of speculation. No proof. As you can see, when you don't know anything, we can make up some pretty wild s^!t.
 

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