FLOPS Overtime

[OnTheFly]

Who do they think they are working OT?!

There is only one way that refusing to work OT is going to change anything. That is if we are organized. Otherwise it has no effect because there is always the next guy in line who NEEDS the money. I know what you're thinking. Those dirty wrotten selfish ?#$*&'s working OT so they can pay thier bills, fix their cars, and put clothes on their families back! How can they be screwing the rest of us like that? Yes...many of these losers could work a PT job on their days off, and it would probably only take six of their seven off at a PT job to make as much as one day at FO.

I think we should just all get together and beat them silly with sticks for not doing what we think is appropriate! I know if we had the teamsters backing us they would be willing to bust a few knee caps to get the point across.

 

[XShipRider]

Pay Scale

Wow! Monster.com lists your median wage (SIC or CP) as:

[font=verdana,arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The median expected salary for a typical Co-Pilot (Small Jet) in Cleveland, OH 44145, is $73,296. This basic market pricing report was prepared using our Certified Compensation Professionals' analysis of survey data collected from thousands of HR departments at employers of all sizes, industries and geographies.

We all know you're making very close to that.

Don't shoot me, I'm only kidding. We all know you're lucky to be making half that. I guess FO needs to do some rework on the pay scale. Oh, by the way, the Low side was 57K and the high side was 89K.

You people aren't even close to the low side without putting in 10 days of OT a month.
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[luvu]

captain-small jet

These are guys that fly half the number of hours per year and spend half the number of days per year on road on average. Cross check with commercial business and aviation annual flight crew survey numbers. Fractional pilots are pulling down half what the industry norm per flight hour or days overnight on road either way you want to figure it.



http://salary.monster.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_compresult.asp?zipcode=&metrocode=39&statecode=OH&state=Ohio&metro=Cleveland&city=&geo=Cleveland%2C+OH&jobtitle=Captain%2FPilot+in+Command+%28Small+Jet%29&search=&narrowdesc=Aviation+and+Airlines&narrowcode=TR01&r=mnstr_swzttsbtn_psr&p=MNSTR42X&geocode=&jobcode=TR20000009

 

[Grim Reaper]

Well, all I can say is this; if you are with Flight Options and need the money you better get the OT money while you can. I do not think that Flight Options is gonna be around much past June.

The current management team is not competent. These guys can not even spell 135. I predict that the FAA will shut Flight Options down for a period of time shortly after the 135 switch is tripped. Recent events associated with the FAA are a clear indicator.

Best advice to the FO pilots is, if you have a job offer take it, if you do not have a offer pending you should have been looking before now. The current management team is not aware of what they do not know and will be surprised beyond belief when things grind to a halt because of exactly what they did not know.

 

[SheGaveMeClap]

February 17th is going to be one UGLY day for Flight Options. Hey guys, let's fly part 135 starting Dec. 1st. Oh yeah, I know it's the middle of January, but we can't handle 135, so let's go back to part 91 again, for another month.

Hey TS, if we couldn't handle part 135 last month, who's to say we are going to handle it when we are FORCED to flip the switch and there's no turning back? Management is digging it's own grave, they deserve whatever happens to them. For the pilots who really enjoy or need this job, I feel for you. For the rest of us who do it because we can't find anything different, better start working a little harder on finding new employment. This place has gone from bad to worse, but it's going to downgrade to horrible in a few weeks. Let's enjoy the ride!!

 

[Heavy Set]

February 17th is going to be one UGLY day for Flight Options. Hey guys, let's fly part 135 starting Dec. 1st. Oh yeah, I know it's the middle of January, but we can't handle 135, so let's go back to part 91 again, for another month.

Hey TS, if we couldn't handle part 135 last month, who's to say we are going to handle it when we are FORCED to flip the switch and there's no turning back? Management is digging it's own grave, they deserve whatever happens to them. For the pilots who really enjoy or need this job, I feel for you. For the rest of us who do it because we can't find anything different, better start working a little harder on finding new employment. This place has gone from bad to worse, but it's going to downgrade to horrible in a few weeks. Let's enjoy the ride!!

I hear Netjets is hiring... Yeah, I guess you can say from bad to worse in many circumstances...

 

[Live4flyng]

I hear Netjets is hiring... Yeah, I guess you can say from bad to worse in many circumstances...

Why would you say that Heavy? What happened to all the positive stuff you preach?