Flops Called...help!!!!

[dime line]

Hey Mason


Just remember, send in your card when you come here!

 

[FLOPSouth]

I was in the recent new-hire class. FLOPS has a lot going for it in comparison to several 121/135 carriers. Yeah, mgmt did tell us how great and perfect the company is, but was also recieved the bad and ugly, the "Dark side" and RTA from various departments and pilots.

No company in the aviation industry is great right now, but all of us are looking for different things. Look at the previous posts it describes our backgrounds and right now FLOPS is a good choice.

If you think your job at FLOPS is so bad then leave as others have, and just as I did from my last spot, because I'm glad to be here.

Southside

 

[dime line]

"If you think your job at FLOPS is so bad then leave as others have, and just as I did from my last spot, because I'm glad to be here."

The original cop-out from somebody who thinks there life is so good and perfect. Hey just look at your paycheck. It will take you at least 5 to 7 (thats a #7) to upgrade. So that means for the next LONG while ( I hope you love your new job) cause you already know what your sorry pay will be. So being that you and I will probably fly together, yes we will have fun, enjoy your new dead end job.

 

[leardawg]

It's good and natural for new guys (and gals) to start off with a positive attitude, and no one should fault them for that. Getting a job you're seeking, when many others have been turned down, is always something to feel proud and positive about. I wish all of them the best of luck and prosperity with Flight Options. Having said that, there is the old saying "the newest broom always sweeps the cleanest." We all started out in this job with positive and upbeat attitudes for the future. I would encourage the new people to take it from those who have been there, and take action now to safeguard their future with the company. I, by nature, tended to resist the idea of joining a union, for reasons too lengthy to list here. I finally threw in the towel and sent in my card (before eventually leaving for a better opportunity). I wish I had sent it in a lot sooner.I still don't believe that unionizing is the solution for many professions. In this case, however, I have concluded that it is the only way the pilot group can have any say and any clout against arbitrary changes in their working conditions and quality of life. As highly-trained professionals to whom an enormous responsibility is delegated, we deserve that level of say and influence. We're not talking about assembly-line widget makers here. I would strongly urge newcomers to consider sending in a card, not to be in a position to make unreasonable demands, but simply to have a voice in these arbitrary decisions. Unionizing will not solve or prevent all problems, but without this clout you run the risk of becoming simple "flunkies" in every sense of the word, expected to do what you are told and shut up. I guarantee that most of the newbies will be cursing and moaning about their lot in life within a couple of years, and kicking themselves for not doing something to influence things while they had the chance. Take it from one who's been there!

 

[dime line]

leardawg you said it a lot better than I could have. Thanks

 

[Flybet3]

Flybet,

Did you do the phone interview? How did it go?

Yeah, it went great....well in the sense that the guy really liked me and wanted to really give me an interview. But I did ask about the ATP requirement. And well I'm wating to hear back from the guy, he was going to check with CP about giving me the ATP with the waiver or whatever they give you. If the CP says no the guy said for me to stay ni touch and as soon as I turn 23 and if they have an opening they will contact me or for me to contact them. Well got a couple of months to go, we'll see if it really happens. The guy was really nice though

 

[Phoenix]

Welcome to the FNG's

I know that you have been force fed the company line of BS in indoc for days and the you now think you have landed a job with a good company. Well you’re right and wrong. It once was a fairly good company, but you did land a job and that’s about it. I the past year our current CEO has taken aim at the pilot group so now we are gearing up for a pissing match.

In March this year we started working on organizing our pilots for a union vote this fall. I invite you all to IBT1108.org to register at the Flight Options Pilots message board and to obtain a representation card to mail and fax in.

This has been a long time coming and not with out considerable thought. Current management has proven that they look at the pilots pay, benefits and quality of life as fair game to offset the cost of their incompetent management. Enough is enough and the only and the only way we can fight back is with a contract.

Please come and be a part of the solution to help fix the problems we the pilots have at Options. Do not be fooled into thinking that all is well and management and the company are going to be looking out for you. Come support the other pilots of Flight Options is our effort to build a future contract that will protect us from much of management’s incompetence.

Phoenix
Contract ASAP