Flight Options

[Ragtime67]

Is Flight Op's expecting any major changes in work rules or pay? I had heard that the Gateway may be going away, is there any truth to that piece of gosip?

 

[FracCapt]

We're just as much in the dark about that as you are. We even had newhires telling US about the training contract - then the CP issued an email a couple of weeks later letting the rest of us know. You're best bet is to find somebody that has interviewed or gone through training recently...maybe they will know the answer.

 

[Frac Daddy]

Don't know if the Gateway is going away. I have heard that newhires are being given a list of 50 cities to choose from as far as domiciles. Wether or not if existing pilots will be forced to comply with this remains to be seen.

 

[cosmotheassman]

Do they start you out in the beechjet regardless? I've got 600 hours in a hawker 800. does that make a difference?

cosmo

 

[Frac Daddy]

Do they start you out in the beechjet regardless? I've got 600 hours in a hawker 800. does that make a difference?

cosmo

1. BJ, Citation or Kingair. 2. No

 

[FracCapt]

Do they start you out in the beechjet regardless? I've got 600 hours in a hawker 800. does that make a difference?

Doesn't matter if you designed and built every Hawker flying....you would end up starting in the small cabin aircraft. Seniority occasionally works for us.

 

[DesertFalcon]

Don't know if the Gateway is going away. I have heard that newhires are being given a list of 50 cities to choose from as far as domiciles. Wether or not if existing pilots will be forced to comply with this remains to be seen.

Hey Frac.

Could you post, the list of the 50 cities, for all of us to see?
If not, is Las Vegas one of the cities?

 

[GooseHZ]

Hey Frac.

Could you post, the list of the 50 cities, for all of us to see?
If not, is L...as Vegas one of the cities


Sorry dude FLOPS is not telling us dumb ol pilots ANYTHING! All we get are rumors.......anyone who has interviewed in the last 6 months knows more than most pilots that have been here for years.....sorry i wish we knew something but we dont....

 

[DesertFalcon]

Hey Frac.

Could you post, the list of the 50 cities, for all of us to see?
If not, is L...as Vegas one of the cities


Sorry dude FLOPS is not telling us dumb ol pilots ANYTHING! All we here are rumors.......anyone who has interviewed in the last 6 months knows more than most pilots that have been here for years.....sorry i wish we knew something but we dont....

Bummer. Still sounds like a better place to work than NetJets?

 

[Ragtime67]

Are there any new hires or recent interviewee's that can post any new information that FLOP"S is feeding them. I am interested most in Gateway, or the gosip about 50 city's to select from as a domicile. Are they requireing new hires to relocate or simply select the base that is close to where you choose to live. I must say, I like the idea of working for a frac, as long as I would not have to move, but that apears to be the trend in that end of the industry. I spoke to a Net Jets guy who said they TA'd the RC the company wanted in hopes of getting the money the pilots want,but he thought that the RC requirement would not last because it would be a sticking point for many new hires. I checked into Citation Shares and they require a pilot to live within 90 min's of a base.

One other question for you FLOP's guys and gals. How do you feel about working without a union? Is it like working without a net? or do you have a decent enough relationship with management that there is not a need for one? Just wondering.

 

[kingtut]

RagtimeXX, You do not want to work for a FRAC.

 

[Frac Daddy]

Hey Frac.

Could you post, the list of the 50 cities, for all of us to see?
If not, is L...as Vegas one of the cities


Sorry dude FLOPS is not telling us dumb ol pilots ANYTHING! All we get are rumors.......anyone who has interviewed in the last 6 months knows more than most pilots that have been here for years.....sorry i wish we knew something but we dont....

No kidding. How long was it before they told everyone that they were going to make us sign training contracts? Four months after they already started doing it? At any rate, I would think KLAS would be on the list(if there even is a list). Again, since I am not a newhire, I don't know anything.

 

[Ragtime67]

Thanks for the advice Tut, I guess I'll keep my fry vat position at Burger King afterall.

 

[DesertFalcon]

No kidding. How long was it before they told everyone that they were going to make us sign training contracts? Four months after they already started doing it? At any rate, I would think KLAS would be on the list(if there even is a list). Again, since I am not a newhire, I don't know anything.

KLAS is the 7th busiest airport in the U.S. I would hope they would consider this as a gateway city?

I am bugging the cr.. out of Options....... Trying to get an interview.

I'm not giving up Options..... Interview me!

 

[paldss]

I have filled out the online application for flight ops 2-3 times in the last few months and have not heard anything back.


does anyone know a fax number or some other way to get through for an interview?

 

[Frac Daddy]

KLAS is the 7th busiest airport in the U.S. I would hope they would consider this as a gateway city?

I am bugging the cr.. out of Options....... Trying to get an interview.

I'm not giving up Options..... Interview me!

Do you know a pilot at Options? Reccomendations from current Options pilots are HEAVILY weighed.

 

[cosmotheassman]

I've been filling it out for almost a year and haven't heard anything...

 

[FracCapt]

does anyone know a fax number or some other way to get through for an interview?

Faxed resumes are trashed. Only apps online are accepted anymore. I even tried to walk one in for a friend, and they told me he would have to fill out the online app and list me as recommending him. They don't keep us up to date on what's going on with the hiring process and/or newhires. All I know is that we need many more pilots than we have(short staffed in just about every fleet), but they're not hiring as many as they could be.

Apparently we have somebody new in pilot recruiting. I don't recall the name, but I know it wasn't Eric as it had been for years. I don't know if the new guy is in addition to, or replacement for, Eric. I only know this because I was in CGF recently and walked by a desk and saw an unfamiliar name...that said "Pilot Recruiter" underneath it.

 

[flyboycpa]

Faxed resumes are trashed. Only apps online are accepted anymore. I even tried to walk one in for a friend, and they told me he would have to fill out the online app and list me as recommending him. They don't keep us up to date on what's going on with the hiring process and/or newhires. All I know is that we need many more pilots than we have(short staffed in just about every fleet), but they're not hiring as many as they could be.

Apparently we have somebody new in pilot recruiting. I don't recall the name, but I know it wasn't Eric as it had been for years. I don't know if the new guy is in addition to, or replacement for, Eric. I only know this because I was in CGF recently and walked by a desk and saw an unfamiliar name...that said "Pilot Recruiter" underneath it.

Eric has moved farther up on the food chain. He has done well for Options and that apparently has been recognized. The last person I got an interview for, relayed to me that both Eric and the new guy (I'm not sure of the name) interviewed him in order to begin training the new guy for pilot recruiting. My understanding is that Eric is in the HR department, but was promoted up the ladder. Kudos to him!

regards,
fb

 

[JetCapt69]

Tier Cities

Don't know if the Gateway is going away. I have heard that newhires are being given a list of 50 cities to choose from as far as domiciles. Wether or not if existing pilots will be forced to comply with this remains to be seen.

Have the Flops guys/gals noticed on the company (internal) pilot's website has a list of the TIER city domicles? You can look your home domicile and see what tier it is. I live in a city that has American, Continental, Southwest, Delta, Frontier, American Eagle, American Connection, Skywest, Mesa & ASA with dozens of flights per day, every day to every major city, but I am considered a TIER 2, which means I will make it home before 9 PM local on day 8 80% of the time and home before 11 PM 90% of the time.

Explain to me how this is a better quality of life? I am getting tired of the 0' dark thirty morning departures with a minimum of 10 hours rest and full 14 hour days as well.

If this latest rumor is true about the 50 domiciles and the institution of new company policies continues to change at will, many people who were riding the fence will be sending in their union cards.