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Sign of the times my friend. (The pilot shortage is real and it is NOW)
 
What kind of times are competitive? I'm stuck in regional hell, but have a bud that's low time and about to give up on the cfi/aviation thing altogether. WHat are the sched's like, and is there a training contract? I'm trying to keep the guy going. Thanks for the help.

B-J-J, yea, when I saw that avatar, it knew it would be a perfect fit for this place!
 
dingo222 said:
What kind of times are competitive? I'm stuck in regional hell, but have a bud that's low time and about to give up on the cfi/aviation thing altogether. WHat are the sched's like, and is there a training contract? I'm trying to keep the guy going. Thanks for the help.

B-J-J, yea, when I saw that avatar, it knew it would be a perfect fit for this place!
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competitive?? was that a joke... hahaha
no training contract, upon completion of training you are given $1000., if you leave prior to 6 months the grand is deducted from your final paycheck..

schedule depends on your run.. you could have an 8hr duty day with 3hrs of flying, or you can have a 13hr duty with 3 or 6 hrs of flying.. all depends on whats open..

so with a 13hr duty day it is easy to clear 42k your 1st year
 
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tathepilot said:
competitive?? was that a joke... hahaha
no training contract, upon completion of training you are given $1000., if you leave prior to 6 months the grand is deducted from your final paycheck..

schedule depends on your run.. you could have an 8hr duty day with 3hrs of flying, or you can have a 13hr duty with 3 or 6 hrs of flying.. all depends on whats open..

so with a 13hr duty day it is easy to clear 42k your 1st year
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what's the work schedule like? 5 on 2 off?
 
slightly off subject

One thing I've always wondered... I always see FLX pilots talk about how they make better money than folks at the 1st - 2nd year regional airline level (which i don't doubt). But why do so many move-on to the regionals? If you already had the normal part 135 mins before working at FLX then why would you waste FLX's and your own time? The regionals are hiring anyone with a pulse.

I've never understood these lateral moves from part 135 to a regional or even regional to regional.

g
 
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One thing I've always wondered... I always see FLX pilots talk about how they make better money than folks at the 1st - 2nd year regional airline level (which i don't doubt). But why do so many move-on to the regionals? If you already had the normal part 135 mins before working at FLX then why would you waste FLX's and your own time? The regionals are hiring anyone with a pulse.

I've never understood these lateral moves from part 135 to a regional or even regional to regional.

g
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I agree with you 100%, there is no need to take a step backwards.. With the flight time that one can get a FLX in a year (800+ multi), moving on, should not be to a regional airline, it should be to corporate gig, if that is what you want...

housing is provided during training, plus pay..
 
Training is two weeks long and they provide you a hotel room you split with one of your classmates.

As far as why people come here I often wonder the same thing. First off there are a lot of guys who say "Regionals suck" "airlines arent for me" "F*** the regionals" and similar statements. There are many guys, myself included, who dont want to move from a particular base. There are also some who started a while ago without any multi time and wouldnt have been able to get on at a regional. They are short a lot of pilots now because they cannot find qualified applicants who are going to be willing to sit in a single piston for a year. Unless they decide to make it a career position intead of a "timebuilder", or get an all Baron fleet, or get some jets on the property I think the problem wil get much worse before it gets better.
 
Trader J if you dont mind me asking why are you looking to get out? Nashville is kind of tough to get out of class. I think there is only two 210 runs. You might get lucky or you might be able to get it after a few months. Once you upgrade to the Baron Nashville is very easy to hold. In fact its likely that you'll be in BNA whether you want to or not. I dont know a lot of the Baron guys up there so I cant say how long they will be here for. I do know they are chartering a few of those runs out because of the pilot shortage.
 
jim718181, Thanks for the info. I want out because the airlines arent a career choice for me. I think the single pilot time would be more beneficial to my career goal than the sic time I am getting now. My only reservation with Flight Express is no turbine time anywere. The pay seems to be better than most and I have heard good things about the company. But if they would just get some kind of turbine, even some 208's, I would be there. I am still considering putting my stuff in though. Thanks again for the info.

Trader J
 
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jim718181, Thanks for the info. I want out because the airlines arent a career choice for me. I think the single pilot time would be more beneficial to my career goal than the sic time I am getting now. My only reservation with Flight Express is no turbine time anywere. The pay seems to be better than most and I have heard good things about the company. But if they would just get some kind of turbine, even some 208's, I would be there. I am still considering putting my stuff in though. Thanks again for the info.

Trader J
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do you have at least 2500tt??, if so i met a cp 2 weeks ago that needs 4 pilots... based in georgia... they fly pc12's and be200's, all single pilot.
 
Orlando is possible. There are quite a few runs out of ORL. Right now it is going pretty senior but that can all change overnight.
 
Trader J said:
jim718181, Thanks for the info. I want out because the airlines arent a career choice for me. I think the single pilot time would be more beneficial to my career goal than the sic time I am getting now. My only reservation with Flight Express is no turbine time anywere. The pay seems to be better than most and I have heard good things about the company. But if they would just get some kind of turbine, even some 208's, I would be there. I am still considering putting my stuff in though. Thanks again for the info.

Trader J
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If you want some single pilot time that will lead to some turbine time take a look at AirNet. Spend a year or so single pilot in the 208/Baron/Navajo then go into the Lears.

Question: If he was to leave the regionals and go back to 135 and later decided to apply for the majors. Would an interview board look down on this? Would there most likely be some tough questions about why he left the 121 world?
 
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CrewDawg said:
If you want some single pilot time that will lead to some turbine time take a look at AirNet. Spend a year or so single pilot in the 208/Baron/Navajo then go into the Lears.

Question: If he was to leave the regionals and go back to 135 and later decided to apply for the majors. Would an interview board look down on this? Would there most likely be some tough questions about why he left the 121 world?
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I don't think it would be bad to leave the regionals.. An interview is about getting to know someone... understanding their motivation for doing the things that they do.. now if traderj is in a situation where he won't upgrade for a few years, than jumping ship might not be too bad of an option..

FLX is a great company to get quality flight time and good pay, but if you want multi time from the jump, AirNet is the place to go.. AN is hiring right now. Craig (Director, Pilot Recruitment/Development ) is a very candid fellow, and their company is going through re-org with a new CEO so the future looks bright for them....
 
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There are also some who started a while ago without any multi time and wouldnt have been able to get on at a regional.
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I'd be one of those. I started at FLX with 0 multi and no rating. Spent a year and a half here which helped me afford the rating. Now I'm sitting on an absurdly easy 13 1/2 hour duty day with about 3 hours of flying in a baron and on pace to make ~45k this year. Until I go to class at Chatauqua, which should happen in the next few weeks. Why? Have to get turbine to move up, tired of insane work hours (although not a lot of it is work...on the other hand, I literally cannot go to the bank or register my car without taking a day off...it's been 7 months since I saw my home in daylight on a weekday, no bases where I want to live, etc etc.)

Overall, it's been an extremely positive experience. You have to be willing to roll with the vagaries of freight flying, but if you do, you'll be treated (and paid) well. Maintenance is good. I recommend FLX with no reservations.
 
Part 135 VFR Mins...

http://www.flightexpress.com/flight_express_news_3_27_05.htm

3.27.05 – Flight Express Hires Part 135 VFR Pilots
Pilots who meet the Part 135 IFR mins for Night and Instrument and have a MINIMUM of 1100 TOTAL will be considered for flight status upon successful completion of a SIM ride, ground and flight training. Upon receiving flight status the pilot will be placed on a line and perform only in VFR conditions. Upon accumulation of the 1200 TOTAL required for IFR ops, the pilot will then take the Part 135 IFR checkride and return to flying as a qualified IFR 135 Line Pilot.

GH 3.27.05




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epilot-that was from two years ago, because of the shortage that they are now facing they reduced the minimums to 500 hours and putting the VFR only guys on the line.
 

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