Flight attendants

[GIVSP]

Looking to see who is using flight attendants. Part 91 only. Falcon 2000 size airplane and up. Why and why not. Mature responses please. Thanks

 

[say again]

We use FA's on 91 flights as per request of owner.

 

[p3hawk]

F/A's

Netjets use's F/A's on all of our Falcon, and Gulfstream aircraft. Some F/A's are better than others for obvious reasons. They can also make or break the flight.

Remember, its based on customer service.

Cheers P3Hawk
DA-2000 Drivr

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Looking to see who is using flight attendants. Part 91 only. Falcon 2000 size airplane and up. Why and why not. Mature responses please. Thanks

Mature responses? ...lol.

Anyhow..Yes, Part 91. One full time F/A for one Falcon.

Our people are food people, no way would Rudys type stuff fly. She plans, shops, cooks etc. She also does hotels, tracks AC Emergency items (AEDs, Med kits, etc) and arranges for our Medaire training. Aside from the Safety aspect of having her there she takes incredible care of our pax - from food to faxes to flowers, from making beds to straightening ties...a good F/A makes you look good.

Keep in mind there's a HUGE diff between a strong F/A and a nice rack. I'm all for both of course...but just prefer the non-headache highly professional one on the plane I have to fly. No drama on the road, no drinking problems, boyfriend problems, not another F'n opinion on how to run a trip. Picking your F/A is critical.

You will pay for a decent one...easily over 100K...but aside from the safety and service benefit, we save a fortune on catering as she shops and is very conscious of costs. Has food connections all over the world (not airport catering) I'd estimate we would easily spend 30K+ more a year on overpriced mediocre menu catering without her.

Good Luck.

 

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I'd estimate we would easily spend 30K+ more a year on overpriced mediocre menu catering without her.

Good Luck.

That's the sad truth! I should get into the airline catering world.

 

[ILOVEBEER]

No flight attendants for us. The bosses like to take care of themselves.

 

[2000Easyguy]

We have one(from a group), every live leg. 2000EZ. Makes life easy for pax, and a handful for us.

 

[2000Easyguy]

No flight attendants for us. The bosses like to take care of themselves.

cheers!

 

[AA717driver]

Previous employer didn't use one unless there was a large pax count. The owners wanted to be left alone and could make their own sandwiches or had a PA along to do so.

A good FA is WONDERFUL. A mediocre or worse is a nightmare.

TC

 

[gern_blanston]

Almost always on the 7X, almost never on the '2000.

A good FA is WONDERFUL. A mediocre or worse is a nightmare.

You got that right!

 

[rice]

We only use an FA on our external charter flights. Wish we had her on all of the trips though! She is simply outstanding, no muss, no fuss, gets the job done and is great to hang out with on the road.
We're all about the same age and same stage of life (married w/kids). So we all deal with the same issues. Even better that my wife likes her. Makes life easy on everyone.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

We're all about the same age and same stage of life (married w/kids). So we all deal with the same issues. Even better that my wife likes her. Makes life easy on everyone.

Awww...you guys watch Oprah together too?

 

[say again]

Awww...you guys watch Oprah together too?

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[gret]

"You will pay for a decent one...easily over 100K..."

You might have inadvertently scared off a lot of people with this observation and kept a lot of qualified FA's out of work.

I've had many work for me and none of them were over $100K. Top end was $75K with a bonus, but most were in the $40-60K range. In many cases they are underpaid...and they do save the owner a lot of money in catering because they watch costs very closely.

God's gift to mankind (in many cases) and they make a trip a lot easier, especially in the large cabin a/c.

 

[SCT]

Dang G200, 100K for an FA on the east coast? You big time HPN pilots must be pulling in well over 200K a year.......

I agree though, a good FA can really make a trip and a bad one will drive you to drinking (even more).

 

[Gulfstream 200]

"You will pay for a decent one...easily over 100K..."

You might have inadvertently scared off a lot of people with this observation and kept a lot of qualified FA's out of work.

I've had many work for me and none of them were over $100K. Top end was $75K with a bonus, but most were in the $40-60K range. In many cases they are underpaid...and they do save the owner a lot of money in catering because they watch costs very closely.

God's gift to mankind (in many cases) and they make a trip a lot easier, especially in the large cabin a/c.

I guess it depends on location and skills.....

I dont know any making under 75k, certainly not any that we would hire. She/He would need a good amount of experience, an education, and likely would be a culinary school grad. 50k is not going to get us that.

I still don't think that pay is enough to do what they do. I'm happy to work with a very good FA but I think it's a horrible job.

 

[CorpCaptain]

Coke Corporate FA's pull around 80K, and after stock options and bonuses/benefits prob clear close to 95K. I remember hearing that trying to stifle my gag reflex. All in all, they were all really easy going and fun to be around but damn.

 

[gret]

OK I went to an unimpeachable source (the Internet) ...here is what they said in 2010-

* Fractionals: 33K to 43K, corporate experience not always required. These companies will train you to their specifications. One of the big pluses for fractionals is that you can live mostly anywhere; at least one company will allow you to airline to meet up with the aircraft [they also let you accumulate and keep your airliner miles].
* Charter: 45K to 75K, depending on location of aircraft and your experience. Much of what I’ve heard as the quoted salary is in the low to mid-50s range. Indeed, the NBAA supports this data with a recent survey showing that the average corporate flight attendant is paid just over 53K per year.
* Owner: 25K to 100K+. Let’s not kid ourselves. There are companies that will expect you to jump through hoops to fly on their aircraft and for peanuts [and you know they don't serve peanuts to their passengers!] On the other hand, if you are a chief flight attendant your salary will probably start at 75K and can easily exceed 90K. The higher salary can be expected when you have a “VP” title and be in charge of several flight attendants. Oh, by the way, don’t forget that you will be flying in addition to your office duties… guess who has to cover for sick employees when no one else can be found?
100K+?! Let’s just say that this amount is unusual, but I did confirm 110K for one flight attendant flying internationally some time back. Generally, never expect anyone to reveal their salary to you… why should they?
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[Jetdriver69]

We use a flight mechanic that has received cabin safety training and doubles as a flight attendant. From my experience replacing a IDG, avionics, tires, etc. on the road, I would much rather have an A&P that serves food than a flight attendant that can't turn a wrench. But our execs have simple tastes and we do fly to some truly crappy third world countries as well as the sandbox. Over a 100K for a F/A?!!! Most of our mechanics don't get paid that much. Someone is living the grand life or is delusional.

 

[G100driver]

We use them on flights with 4 or more pax. Which is about 10% of the time.

 

[smails]

We use a flight mechanic that has received cabin safety training and doubles as a flight attendant. From my experience replacing a IDG, avionics, tires, etc. on the road, I would much rather have an A&P that serves food than a flight attendant that can't turn a wrench. But our execs have simple tastes and we do fly to some truly crappy third world countries as well as the sandbox. Over a 100K for a F/A?!!! Most of our mechanics don't get paid that much. Someone is living the grand life or is delusional.

We also use a flight mechanic...not good for an airstart though!