Flexjet info

[Computer Geek]

Hey Guys just wondering what life at Flexjet is like?

Do the fracs have unions?
Hows the Schedule?
Hows the time off?

CG

 

[Computer Geek]

I was going to edit this a bit but can't find the eraser. after doing some searches I found some of the info. And then had more questions.
Does FLEX operate as a 135 operator? I saw that they have a 135 certificate. The reason I ask is we just flew a flex trip but we did it part 91, I thought it was funny but was assured that it was ok by my dispatcher.

The trip sucked btw thats why I was curious about life style, if this was any indication of how your treated I can understand why FX guys are always miserable in the FBO.


CG

 

[jergar999]

Most likely Part 135, but if the aircraft you are flying was leased to your company and flexjet owned at least 51% of the aircraft and also had it listed on their certificate and the person(s) on board had a signed leasing agreement with flexjet there is a good chance it might be 91. Just to clarify.

 

[Computer Geek]

What about this provision of Time sharing? This is what they are claiming it was?

FAR 91.501 makes no sense to me it speaks of time sharing, really doesn't define it or tell me if I have to be a subpart k operation?

The aircraft is leased to us and Flex does not own any of it nor is it on the Flex program.

Thanks for shining some lite on this

CG

 

[Computer Geek]

Thank Griz,
I will get them to do that today.

CG

 

[Computer Geek]

Let me throw another wrench into this question. lets assume they have a written agreement. (which btw I don't doubt.. it would be mutually beneficial) Now this client shows up we fly them to destination. As they get off the airplane I ask what type airplane they have a share in... they tell me that I am not a flexjet customer I chartered an aircraft to take me to XYZ.

Major Red flags and hair on the back of my neck stands up on this one! Part 135? or 91 with a time share agrrement?

CG

 

[fuzzydice]

If you flew a charter for FlexJet, it was 135.

Unless you flew an airplane with a blue belly and an FX tail number, and you had a Master Interchange Agreement onboard that reflected that particular owner's ability to ride in an airplane that isn't his own. I have never seen an airplane on the MIA that isn't an FX airplane operated by FlexJet.

Maybe your company considered the position leg for the trip part 91 for some reason, but the live leg should have been 135.

If your company dispatched you Part 91 to do one of our charters, I'm sure FlexJet would like to know about it. PM me and I'll get you a phone number to call at Flex.

 

[Schrode]

Hey, do what we do at NetJets when we have a question that concerns our bread and butter: Have your Union look into it and file a grievance if the Company put you in a position that could get you violated.

Oh, unless you don't believe a Union has a purpose . . .

 

[AirChef]

Flexjet Life

I believe Flexjet is much the same as the other fractionals, we work hard and generally want more time off. I have seen one thread in this forum that speaks to our schedule, I believe F/O's start around 35,000 a year and their captain senority starts after your first year as f/o (meaning if you upgrade to captain in three years you will start your captain pay at the second year captain level). Flexjet will not upgrade you just to call you captain when you really fly as an F/O, once your a captain you remain a captain no matter what a/c you upgrade into. We are hiring up to fifty pilots with plans for more, so I would imagine we will see some much needed upgrades.
I love to go to work with my fellow pilots we always seem to have some fun somewhere, generally in a place you wouldn't expect it. We are not unionized and don't seem to be going that direction anytime soon, this does give us much room with our back office and generally speaking they do listen.
The Learjet is so much fun to fly, it just wants to fly out of it's skin (Learjet 31a and 60) this is great comfort in the mountain airports and when you want to climb fast to seperate from smaller aircraft, the Challenger 300 and 604 are great comfort rides.
I have friends at the other three major fractionals and they have the same complaints we do (our upgrades will be improving soon) so interview where you can and compare the options. Don't rely on the AIN for good Flexjet info as the AIN staff gets it's fractional info from two former Flexjet employees who were escorted out our doors long ago.
Hang in there!!!