Flexjet Changes Crew Meal Policy????

[Peter_Griffin]

I just called Handschuch and he said it's BS. That if or when it will start would be long way off or not at all.

Nice try though.

Nice try to you dude for being a koolaid drinker. We will soon see whether or not he lied to you -- my money is on you looking like a fool and RH looking like a liar -- that is if you really did talk to him today when you said you did as I have some other info he would not have been available at that time you said you had just called him... Truck on PilotGuy....

 

[corpflunkie]

At Avantair, if your schedule is tight and you want a crew meal, you tell scheduling what you want to eat (within reason) and what stop you want it waiting at, done. At least that has been my experience. They don't deduct it from your perdiam, all they ask is you be reasonable in your request.

 

[netjetwife]

CF, that doesn't surprise me. It reflects the NJ experience before the new CBA that brought higher wages. Now the pilots are seeing their choices limited to 7 selections. It seems obvious that some managers decide better meals cost a lot less money than better salaries. Perhaps they believe that old saying that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach.

I can appreciate that being "spoiled" on your meal selections is tough to give up, but it is worth it. Now there are many pilots and families who enjoy a greater choice in lots of different scenarios. Hang in there guys. Your palates will adjust and hopefully the problems will be worked out over time.

 

[AceCrackshot]

At least the NJA guys can get some variety. There is more variety (and often health and taste) in a case of MREs than the crew we're starting to get. Gone are the days of 3000 calorie Rudy's lunches with actual fresh fruit and vegatables.

Selection is key, and there have been some significant issues at FLOPS with regard to crew meals not addressing crew members allergy or dietary restrictions.

And it always bears repeating...if you're hungry, stop!

 

[netjetwife]

If Flex forces pilots to choose between food or funds--

What worries me about a forced policy of having to pay for your meals or do without, is that some of the pilots might be tempted to skip a meal to save the money. Please don't bother to tell me that that would never happen. You have pilots that count on per diem to supplement their wages who have probably factored that money into the monthly budget. It's outrageous. I can only imagine how the Flex families are feeling.
I don't care what policy they wrap it in, in the end it's still a pay cut! :angryfire

 

[wolfpackpilot]

This whole "pick 7" thing goes out the window if your on the Falcon or BBJ, right?

 

[wolfpackpilot]

You have pilots that count on per diem to supplement their wages who have probably factored that money into the monthly budget.

And thats a major mistake. Regardless of the circumstances, per diem is not part of a salary. It is nothing more than the cost of doing business on the road, period. "Those" pilots should get a free class in budget economics.

"Yeah honey, we cant pull of the new Toyota payments unless I find another $300 a month, I guess I just wont eat anything while Im on the road but the aircraft peanuts."

 

[netjetwife]

Everyone knows what per diem is supposed to be for. That it winds up supplementing frac salaries is the unfortunate truth. I'm sure the pilots know how much of their per diem they have safely been able to use for other needs. For all your scoffing, WP, that it is even a remote possibility shows that something is wrong with the economic picture. I don't think taking an economics class is going to force the company to change their meal policy. It's going to take all of the pilots standing shoulder to shoulder to do that. They might even have to hold up a picketing sign while they're at it, but that is far better than being a doormat, any day. The solution isn't to take a class it's to send in a card.

 

[SCT]

"What worries me about a forced policy of having to pay for your meals or do without, is that some of the pilots might be tempted to skip a meal to save the money. Please don't bother to tell me that that would never happen.".....NJW

I hardly doubt things are that "dire" that pilots are going to skip meals to pay the gas bill. Except for CFIs and a few a Lear pilots, I don't think there are to many starving pilots.

And if life was that dire for me, the first thing I would do is cancel the internet, pull my wife away from the computer(hint) and find her a job. Then I would start looking for a new position to support my family instead of bitching on the net about it.

SCT

 

[Diesel]

7 meal choice still applies to falcons and bbj's. It keeps guys like safety in the seat from having to make those tough choices in life on what to eat.

 

[PilotGuy]

Nice try to you dude for being a koolaid drinker. We will soon see whether or not he lied to you -- my money is on you looking like a fool and RH looking like a liar -- that is if you really did talk to him today when you said you did as I have some other info he would not have been available at that time you said you had just called him... Truck on PilotGuy....

He is always available on the Cell D!ckhead.

See Ya

 

[Peter_Griffin]

He is always available on the Cell D!ckhead.

See Ya

Not where he was a$$hole. Since I know that, it should give him a pretty good idea of who I am now -- why don't you "call" him again and find out how you can get in touch with me instead of spreading your trash here. OOOPS, can't do that huh? -- got ya fool!

See ya right back.

 

[PilotGuy]

Not where he was a$$hole. Since I know that, it should give him a pretty good idea of who I am now -- why don't you "call" him again and find out how you can get in touch with me instead of spreading your trash here. OOOPS, can't do that huh? -- got ya fool!

See ya right back.

When I talked to him, he was walking acrossed the parking lot at the waterview. right now he is at home with company from out of town . Can't make it much more simple than that biatch.

 

[PilotGuy]

Ms...

 

[netjetwife]

The fact remains, no matter how much you'd like to overlook it, that charging for meals when they hadn't previously done so, is tantamount to a pay cut. Yes per diem is to be used for expenses like meals, but that has always been when the crew food is not provided. Like it or not, per diem is used to supplement frac wages. That it could pose ANY degree of hardship for a pilot shows how badly underpaid many of the pilots are. That has to change and many see 1108 as the best resource frac pilots have to obtain the contract they need.

PILOTS ARE PROFESSIONALS AND SHOULD BE COMPENSATED ACCORDINGLY