Flex or Net Jets

[squonk]

Good post GV, probably makes too much sense for the union thugs to get it.








Right, you guys can set pricing in your industry just like United, Delta, and Northwest can in theirs - just because they're big. Worked great for them. I'll bet it works just as well for you.

And you know all this because you talked to a couple of their pilots on the road. That's whati'd call an informed source.

Look at it again Seaspray:

If I buy a 1/8th share Citation Excel/XLS from you, it costs $1,312,500.00, $14,524.00 in monthly management fees and $1,804.00 an occupied hour.

If I buy the same airplane from Citation Shares, it costs $1,312,000.00, $15,200 in monthly management fees and $1,900.00 an occupied hour.

If I buy a 1/8th share of a Lear 45 from Flexjet, it costs $1,258,000.00, $11,320 in monthly management feels, and $1,650.00 an occupied hour.

The pricing is almost identical. Who do you think set this pricing? That's right....NJA did! You see we've been here the longest. When we came out with a flight card what did the other frax do? Right again, they followed suit.

The others will follow. They have no other choice really.

Maybe some Flight Options folks can back this up for Sspray? I had no reason to doubt the two or three crews we spoke to over that tour.

 

[FamilyGuy]

The truck driver that stopped to ask if we were on strike was carrying a load of jet fuel. He said, and I quote, "well when you do go on strike, they won't be getting any fuel for the planes!"

Now that's FUNNY!

Please explain how that's going to work.

NetJets gets its fuel from FBO's. The FBO's have many customers, including NetJets.

Is some truck driver going to stop delivering fuel to all FBO's and all their other customers?

What's to stop NetJets from using the other FBO's on the field?

This doesnt appear to be feasible at all....just an empty threat....much like the scab list for charter companies.

 

[FamilyGuy]

So I guess NJets Scotland and more over expansion doesn't threaten the viability of our company. Just ask any Midway guy what over expansion brought them.

Are you refering to this?

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1934712005

The article doesnt say...is this truly a 'new operation' complete with operations center, staff, etc.... or is it just another sales office?

A sales office up there probably makes sense....hard to argue against it when they appear to have a good concentration of wealth in the area.

Or do you have something against a sales office as well?

 

[squonk]

Please explain how that's going to work.

NetJets gets its fuel from FBO's. The FBO's have many customers, including NetJets.

Is some truck driver going to stop delivering fuel to all FBO's and all their other customers?

What's to stop NetJets from using the other FBO's on the field?

This doesnt appear to be feasible at all....just an empty threat....much like the scab list for charter companies.

FamilyGuy:

Yes FBO's have many customers. I'm just relaying what this particular driver told us.

What's to stop Netjets from using the other FBO's? Netjets will need to build another FBO in this case. It's the only one.

I don't think it's an empty threat. Just one more cog in the wheel that can bring things to a slow grinding halt.

ps
I haven't seen anyone bringing up scab lists lately...except you company guys....looks like your just stirring the pot. Must get old after a while. You're doing a good job though. Keep up the good work.

 

[GEXDriver]

Look at it again Seaspray:



The pricing is almost identical. Who do you think set this pricing? That's right....NJA did! You see we've been here the longest. When we came out with a flight card what did the other frax do? Right again, they followed suit.

Maybe some Flight Options folks can back this up for Sspray? I had no reason to doubt the two or three crews we spoke to over that tour.

Actually, FlexJet has been lowering monthly maintenance fees accross the board. I think your competitors will look at you raising MMF as an opportunity to increase market share.

The others will follow. They have no other choice really.

Really, why? If they are profitable at their current pricing there is no reason to follow NJA.

 

[squonk]

GEXdriver:

You could be correct. I will allow that. It just seems to me since I've been doing the frax thing, that we set the bar and the others react. That could well be changing; eg..CS not selling any more "cards".